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Freezer Particles/Vacuum Sealer (32 posts / 3,912 views)
Cam Cam
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Post #1 23 Feb 2021 13:46
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I want to prepare and freeze some particle this year and would like to vacuum seal these in kilo bags to save some freezer space. I remember some post(s) on here in the past but I am unable to find them whilst doing a search, so I have a couple of questions:-

What Vacuum sealer would you recommend?
What size bags would I need?

Links to any would be great.
TIA
Dazjones Dazjones
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Post #2 23 Feb 2021 13:58
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I have this mate:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07LBM7B8J/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

These should be big enough: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07JCNMR9S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Daz
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #3 23 Feb 2021 14:25
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In reply to Post #2
Same link, mate...
Dazjones Dazjones
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Post #4 23 Feb 2021 14:28
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Hopefully sorted

Daz
Cam Cam
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Post #5 23 Feb 2021 14:38
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Thanks Daz...I thought I was going mad with those links lol

Currently unavailable in those links but I suppose this is no different?

Vacuum-Sealer



Bonsenkitchen Vacuum Sealer
Dazjones Dazjones
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Post #6 23 Feb 2021 14:41
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In reply to Post #5
Similar mate, and will do the same job

Daz
Belch Belch
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Post #7 23 Feb 2021 16:28
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also thinking about one of these . . .are they -

1 - Cheaper than ziplock bags in the long run
2 - Easy and faff free . .? (ie. pre-bagging 10kg boilies in 1kg bags etc)

. . ?
Dazjones Dazjones
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Post #8 23 Feb 2021 16:35
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In reply to Post #7
You don't get the vacuum effect in zip lock bags. No real faff, easy once you've done it a few times. You can then use it on food etc for fishing and none fishing.

Daz
Bren987 Bren987
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Post #9 23 Feb 2021 17:16
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In reply to Post #2
Just been looking for bags to freeze boilies in, these look perfect but are they thick enough?
framey framey
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Post #10 23 Feb 2021 17:30
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In reply to Post #9
Plenty
I even split casters and maggots into these and the. Freeze them
Bren987 Bren987
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Post #11 23 Feb 2021 17:45
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In reply to Post #10
Cheers bud all ordered 👍
Leigh83
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Post #12 23 Feb 2021 18:09
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In reply to Post #7
The great thing about vacuum packing you're bait for freezing is it virtually eliminates any type of freezer burn and really does extend most food items storage times significantly, it's great for meals on the bank to, you can portion up and freeze, Chuck in a cool box or bag and then just add it to a pan of boiling water, negating any dirty pan on the bank! Keeps fresh food really well for longer periods of time too!
I like to sous vide cook (at home) steaks, sausages (any meat for any meal on the bank) and then freeze it and all you need to do is flash fry it on the bank, it really is a game changer, less camping gas consumed, less pots pans to clean, fast fresh food 👍
I bagged up and vac packed 20kg of bait in 15 mins the other day, so it's relatively faff free.
framey framey
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Post #13 23 Feb 2021 18:11
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Sous vide

You must be a chef lol
Leigh83
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Post #14 23 Feb 2021 18:18
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No buddy 😂 I'm a water production engineer
A mate put me onto it that's mega obsessed with perfectly cooked steaks! It really is a brilliant way of cooking as it gives perfect repeatable results every time, tbh they're not mega expensive now either, from memory mine cost me 70 odd quid and it's seen some hammer lol
Another advantage is you can pre cook any meats prior to a big barbecue then just chuck it on to the charcoal to give a crispy barbecue taste without having to spend ages stood turning meat lol
It's simply time & temperature combinations that give you rare, medium rare or well done.
Cam Cam
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Post #15 23 Feb 2021 18:20
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or he read the description in the bag link

I'm mainly doing it for the storage side of things. Thinking along the lines of a flatter bag means I can use up less space.

Leigh83
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Post #16 23 Feb 2021 18:24
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In reply to Post #15
If you're not bothered about your baits being super spherical you can really vac pack them down and get them pretty flat Cam (if it's a softish bait may I add)👍
Clobersauraus Clobersauraus
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Post #17 23 Feb 2021 19:03
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Or freeze them first so there solid then vac pack them....just remember to pierce the bag when defrosting
Belch Belch
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Post #18 23 Feb 2021 19:04
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. . .like the bank cooking aspect! So if you vacced and froze a chilli (for example) you just take it to the bank, defrost and lob the whole plastic bag in boiling water, then decant onto bowl/plate? Assume you could negate the freezing bit and just keep in the fridge for a few days prior as well for speedier cooking . .?
Leigh83
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Post #19 23 Feb 2021 19:19
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In reply to Post #17
I personally wouldn't to do that as I'm ideally not wanting the water to crystallise on the bait for longer term storage, each to there own I guess, if you were needing to maintain the shape it'd be an added benefit though 👍
My vacuum sealer has a manual pulse function too so you can remove as much or as little air as required.
Leigh83
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Post #20 23 Feb 2021 19:23
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In reply to Post #18
Exactly that Belch, you don't have to freeze it but if you do freeze the chilli it also acts as a cool block for the rest of your cool box or bag 👍 it's definitely an added benefit to eating well on the bank and really keeps it quick and simple
Effectively making your own boil in the bag fresh meals lol
Edit. Another tip is you can vac pack and freeze any left over take away curries and they go down a storm on the bank, even half a naan and it heats lovely in a pan of boiling water 👌
Jslinn Jslinn
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Post #21 24 Feb 2021 08:04
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In reply to Post #7
I vacuum packed some 18mm solar/cherry carp bait when they first came out. They went in round and came out as dodecahedrons.

So go easy on the vacuum, you can stop it during the process and it then starts to seal the bag.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #22 24 Feb 2021 08:15
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In reply to Post #21
Vac packing and modified atmosphere packaging is a brilliant way of extending the life of high risk food products.

Its not a long term solution to extension of said products, so dont be fooled into thinking it will last for too long

certain bacteria such as clostridium Botulinum can be present with the absence of O2, these produce toxins at temps around or above 3c

Listeria is also capable of multiplying at temps as low as 0c

a great way of short term preservation, but you still need to be mindful of the above.

Ive played about with vac packing bait and its great, certainly as Cam mention, space saving, especially when taking lots of bait to say France, works wonders.

be also mindful of oils on said baits, this affects the sealing process.
Belch Belch
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Post #23 24 Feb 2021 10:33
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- so glugging a bag (eg with salmon oil) whilst defrosting and then putting said baits in the vac pack and refreezing wouldn't work Joss . .?
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #24 24 Feb 2021 12:50
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In reply to Post #23
yeah, but when vac packing just make sure there NO oil anywhere near the heat sealing joint as it wont work mate
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #25 25 Feb 2021 07:37
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In reply to Post #24
OH, and soft baits can end up slightly squared off
fishy_fingers fishy_fingers
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Post #26 14 Mar 2021 19:39
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Anymore recommendations for a vac pac machines
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #27 15 Mar 2021 08:48
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In reply to Post #26
depends how much bait you want to package really mate.

you can get a simple table top unit, probably best to google "home vacum packing" you'll get a good idea on whats available.

i have a larger one intended for vac packing meat products, as im in that game, i got one for nothing.
Erik1926
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Post #28 15 Mar 2021 09:18
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In reply to Post #26
I've just ordered one from amazon. Looked for good reviews and a machine that had both dry and wet settings. Came with some free bags and a few other bits. Payed £40 but will be using it for day to day life aswell as fishing.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #29 15 Mar 2021 09:37
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In reply to Post #28
make sure you get as much air out as poss pre placing in the machine, keep seal edges as dry as poss, i know the specs may state "wet", but seals can fail is wet. Oil is a defo no no on seal edges, so be mindful of that.

once packed, the bags arent massively tollerant, so just becareful that you dont throw them around, one pin hole and the products soon allow air in and bacteria to multiply
fishy_fingers fishy_fingers
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Post #30 15 Mar 2021 10:20
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In reply to Post #27
It was mainly to put a kilo batches boilies and particles the one someone recommended on Amazon didn't have great reviews
Cam Cam
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Post #31 15 Mar 2021 11:19
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In reply to Post #30
I brought the one in post #5
Bonsenkitchen Vacuum Sealer

Does what it says on the tin.
I brought some extra bags aswell
Bonsenkitchen Vacuum Food Sealer Rolls Bags
Nigel18
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Post #33 8 Jul 2023 23:08
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Can I vac pac freshly cooked Hemp and will it last 4 days on the bank?
Could I freeze whatever I didn't use and use for another trip?

Also would I need to drain all the liquid?

Thanks
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