Hi all
Iv picked up a spod rod cheap but I don't have a spod reel.
I have a Shimano 8010 gte in the shed doing nothing.
Can I use this?I'll be spoding no more than 15 wraps.
Also can I use 18lb mono with a shock leader?
Thanks, chris
Iv picked up a spod rod cheap but I don't have a spod reel.
I have a Shimano 8010 gte in the shed doing nothing.
Can I use this?I'll be spoding no more than 15 wraps.
Also can I use 18lb mono with a shock leader?
Thanks, chris
In reply to Post #1
A proper spod real just makes life easier then a small one like you've mentioned
A proper spod real just makes life easier then a small one like you've mentioned
In reply to Post #1
Yes you can use what you have although not the best suited reel for the job as the small 8010 retrieving spombs/spods might get a bit tiresome I suppose it all depends how you see yourself using it, a few lobs no problem emptying a bucket full I would look for a reel more dedicated to the job, probably stick to a small/medium sized spomb/spod would be best.
Yes you can use what you have although not the best suited reel for the job as the small 8010 retrieving spombs/spods might get a bit tiresome I suppose it all depends how you see yourself using it, a few lobs no problem emptying a bucket full I would look for a reel more dedicated to the job, probably stick to a small/medium sized spomb/spod would be best.
In reply to Post #1
I use my regular rod and reels with a spod as most of the time I just unclip the lead and rig and hook on my spomb
I only use a small spomb with them though as I feel a medium spomb overloads the rods one or 2 spomb or so and take it off receipt on lead and hooklink and Chuck it back out
I use my regular rod and reels with a spod as most of the time I just unclip the lead and rig and hook on my spomb
I only use a small spomb with them though as I feel a medium spomb overloads the rods one or 2 spomb or so and take it off receipt on lead and hooklink and Chuck it back out
In reply to Post #1
Yes to both questions.
You're spodding at a max 60 yards so it should be easy enough to do. A bigger reel will make it easier but if you're only chucking out a few spods then it should be fine.
Yes to both questions.
You're spodding at a max 60 yards so it should be easy enough to do. A bigger reel will make it easier but if you're only chucking out a few spods then it should be fine.
In reply to Post #5
Thanks for the replies guys.
Iv managed to pick up a spod reel from Facebook this afternoon. It's loaded with 20lb Nash braid but no shock leader.
Can anyone recommend a shock leader please?
I'll also be using this set up for casting a deeper so don't want to risk loosing it
Thanks for the replies guys.
Iv managed to pick up a spod reel from Facebook this afternoon. It's loaded with 20lb Nash braid but no shock leader.
Can anyone recommend a shock leader please?
I'll also be using this set up for casting a deeper so don't want to risk loosing it
In reply to Post #6
I use the esp tapered mono leaders 15lb to 40lb on my spod rod or on my distance rods...tough and reliable, but make sure you use a decent leader knot , mahin for me personally...
I use the esp tapered mono leaders 15lb to 40lb on my spod rod or on my distance rods...tough and reliable, but make sure you use a decent leader knot , mahin for me personally...
In reply to Post #6
Something like kryston quicksilver or Korda armakord is ideal.
I use the mahin knot to attach the braid to the shockleader.
I've used mono shockleader a in the past but much prefer the braided ones I mention above. Mke sure when the spomb is in ‘casting position' there are 3-5 turns of the shockleader on the spool.
The set up is pretty bulletproof you Can get a few seasons use out of it no problem. It's worth re-tying the mahin knot every now and again as it will wear over time.
Something like kryston quicksilver or Korda armakord is ideal.
I use the mahin knot to attach the braid to the shockleader.
I've used mono shockleader a in the past but much prefer the braided ones I mention above. Mke sure when the spomb is in ‘casting position' there are 3-5 turns of the shockleader on the spool.
The set up is pretty bulletproof you Can get a few seasons use out of it no problem. It's worth re-tying the mahin knot every now and again as it will wear over time.
Would not bother with a shock leader at all, use the medium or midi spomb.
In reply to Post #9
Nothing personal but I feel that this is very bad advice.
Nothing personal but I feel that this is very bad advice.
In reply to Post #10
Iv picked up some korda armakord 50lb this morning.
Just to check the mahin knot will be best to attach it to the braided mainline?
What know would be best for the other end to make a loop so I can change from a spod to the deeper?
Iv picked up some korda armakord 50lb this morning.
Just to check the mahin knot will be best to attach it to the braided mainline?
What know would be best for the other end to make a loop so I can change from a spod to the deeper?
In reply to Post #10
Not taken personally. I appreciate it would need to explained in more detail for the OP as he has stated that he is new to spodding.
Admittedly I've never used such a small reel with such a high Bs of line. 11lb Slycast on my Mitchell RDs as a kid. Oh I've tried 6lb with a shock leader and all that and soon realised the spool size was the major factor. So a purchased a set of Emblems and 8000s specials and used 12-15lb line ditching the idea of shock leaders.
In fact the only shock leader and I use nowadays and it's not for its strength is on my Marker rod which has braid to a tapered pre stretched mono to allow easy of use as a marker float and braid is a pain as it can tangle and I'm not a fan of pissing about.
What the chap should consider is the weight he intends to cast out. A 4 ounce spomb/Spod (actually make your own using a shampoo bottle and stick some foam at the bottom of it). Anyway weight when I first started spodding 25 years ago I used a sea rod and sensor in 20lb up to 80 yards with a shampoo bottle far more work than today's spombs.
However as a beginner practice building up to the 15 wraps, achievable with 4 ounces of cargo. A shock leader on one hand would hinder the cast of say 4 ounces which imho is counter productive as the 20lb line is more than capable to with stand. On the other hand if your trying to cast a large spomb filled to the brim with particle you will should appreciate that it could weigh considerably more and push the 20lb line outside it's limits.
Braid is worth considering as it has a higher breaking strain for its diameter however it's wise to use a finger stall or casting glove.
The OP just needs to be sensible about it and consider the weight he is casting and practice/build confidence.
I appreciate that if I wanted to cast 120 plus yards then a shock leader would be a sensible move.
Not taken personally. I appreciate it would need to explained in more detail for the OP as he has stated that he is new to spodding.
Admittedly I've never used such a small reel with such a high Bs of line. 11lb Slycast on my Mitchell RDs as a kid. Oh I've tried 6lb with a shock leader and all that and soon realised the spool size was the major factor. So a purchased a set of Emblems and 8000s specials and used 12-15lb line ditching the idea of shock leaders.
In fact the only shock leader and I use nowadays and it's not for its strength is on my Marker rod which has braid to a tapered pre stretched mono to allow easy of use as a marker float and braid is a pain as it can tangle and I'm not a fan of pissing about.
What the chap should consider is the weight he intends to cast out. A 4 ounce spomb/Spod (actually make your own using a shampoo bottle and stick some foam at the bottom of it). Anyway weight when I first started spodding 25 years ago I used a sea rod and sensor in 20lb up to 80 yards with a shampoo bottle far more work than today's spombs.
However as a beginner practice building up to the 15 wraps, achievable with 4 ounces of cargo. A shock leader on one hand would hinder the cast of say 4 ounces which imho is counter productive as the 20lb line is more than capable to with stand. On the other hand if your trying to cast a large spomb filled to the brim with particle you will should appreciate that it could weigh considerably more and push the 20lb line outside it's limits.
Braid is worth considering as it has a higher breaking strain for its diameter however it's wise to use a finger stall or casting glove.
The OP just needs to be sensible about it and consider the weight he is casting and practice/build confidence.
I appreciate that if I wanted to cast 120 plus yards then a shock leader would be a sensible move.
If you are using a stiff rod I would definitely recommend using a braided leader. Mono straight through to the Spod will be like elastic and the stretch will take all of the energy out of the cast. Then if you hit it too hard to compensate you'll crack off and loose the spod. Or shampoo bottle.
In reply to Post #11
I use the advanced Albright knot.
I use the advanced Albright knot.
In reply to Post #13
He is casting 60 yards not 160.
To the op bear in mind the weight your casting.
He is casting 60 yards not 160.
To the op bear in mind the weight your casting.
In reply to Post #15
Doesn't matter how far, a stiff rod with a loaded spod and stretchy 18lb mono isn't a great idea.
Doesn't matter how far, a stiff rod with a loaded spod and stretchy 18lb mono isn't a great idea.
To be fair, out of the many rods I've own I'd never describe them as stiff.
So from your experience fair enough.
As mentioned the weight of the Spod is a factor that's important, the real and line will limit the distance.
So from your experience fair enough.
As mentioned the weight of the Spod is a factor that's important, the real and line will limit the distance.
In reply to Post #11
I've used the mahin knot for braid - braided shockleader and it's the perfect knot in my opinion. Make sure it is bedded down nice and tight, and don't trim the tag ends too short. I leave the tag ends around 10mm.
In terms of a loop at the end of the leader, i tie one really large figure 8 loop, then a small figure 8 loop at the end of the large loop. This created a tag that makes it easier to undo. Spod/spomb/lead/deeper can just be looped
On and off. Dead easy.
I've used the mahin knot for braid - braided shockleader and it's the perfect knot in my opinion. Make sure it is bedded down nice and tight, and don't trim the tag ends too short. I leave the tag ends around 10mm.
In terms of a loop at the end of the leader, i tie one really large figure 8 loop, then a small figure 8 loop at the end of the large loop. This created a tag that makes it easier to undo. Spod/spomb/lead/deeper can just be looped
On and off. Dead easy.
In reply to Post #15
Better to be overgunned than undergunned surely? Especially if you're casting £200 worth of deeper.
Better to be overgunned than undergunned surely? Especially if you're casting £200 worth of deeper.
Ah ok I'd not noticed the use of a deeper, short term yeah use a leader, then invest in a decent reel and use braid straight through as they are the best things to cast out.
In reply to Post #20
Hi all, just to confirm iv picked up a dedicated spod reel yesterday that's loaded with Nash 25lb braid.
Hi all, just to confirm iv picked up a dedicated spod reel yesterday that's loaded with Nash 25lb braid.
In reply to Post #21
Ideal mate. SPOMBS AWAY
Ideal mate. SPOMBS AWAY
In reply to Post #22
Worth mentioning it's definitely worth wearing a finger stall when casting with braid, especially if giving the biggun. My old man goes through golf gloves like they're going out of fashion, I use these with the other fingers cut off, rather than buying one.
Worth mentioning it's definitely worth wearing a finger stall when casting with braid, especially if giving the biggun. My old man goes through golf gloves like they're going out of fashion, I use these with the other fingers cut off, rather than buying one.
In reply to Post #21
Finger stall and in case your not aware wet the braid before you start casting. Keep the rod tip in the water on the retrieve as dry braid is prone to knot up during the cast.
Finger stall and in case your not aware wet the braid before you start casting. Keep the rod tip in the water on the retrieve as dry braid is prone to knot up during the cast.
Always use a braided leader (50lb or above) as you are then able to transfer all the power into the cast as there is little stretch. Don't be tempted not to use a leader even if you're only fishing @60yds, casting into the wind even at those close in ranges, you'd have to give it a bit more than usual. Casting with no leader will inevitably end up with a large Spomb going rogue on you.
Here's a good tip to save the crack off's: when winding your spomb back in, hold the line in one hand putting resistance on the line going back on the spool so it isn't all loose and baggy as loose braid on your spool is a sure fire way of cracking off. Spombs and or similar skip across the water with little resistance leaving your reeled in braid all slack... dodgement.
Here's a good tip to save the crack off's: when winding your spomb back in, hold the line in one hand putting resistance on the line going back on the spool so it isn't all loose and baggy as loose braid on your spool is a sure fire way of cracking off. Spombs and or similar skip across the water with little resistance leaving your reeled in braid all slack... dodgement.
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