been rolling my own bait now for about 6 months, after a few teething issues and a floating issue 
i have cracked my recipe and its been catching me fish so WIN WIN.
however......
the lake im fishing never calls for throwing sticks or catapulting baits. if im at range its a pva stringer or 3/4 spombs.
im considering not boiling my baits and just leaving them a few days to form a skin. i always make them fresh and i cant really see any negatives in just fishing a lightly skinned paste bait.
id love some opinions on this.
i have cracked my recipe and its been catching me fish so WIN WIN.however......
the lake im fishing never calls for throwing sticks or catapulting baits. if im at range its a pva stringer or 3/4 spombs.
im considering not boiling my baits and just leaving them a few days to form a skin. i always make them fresh and i cant really see any negatives in just fishing a lightly skinned paste bait.
id love some opinions on this.
They'll defiantly be more attractive and break down quicker without boiling 100%. If it's not needed then go for it.
In reply to Post #1
A great method, give it a go.
A great method, give it a go.
In reply to Post #1
Well worth doing, and you can replace the eggs with water too as you don't need to firm them up for the stick
Well worth doing, and you can replace the eggs with water too as you don't need to firm them up for the stick
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Or maybe just up the Hydro even more
Or maybe just up the Hydro even more
In reply to Post #5
Why not, ive not done that myself and tbh I've no idea why... 😂
Why not, ive not done that myself and tbh I've no idea why... 😂
In reply to Post #1
I like this idea I have done bare mixes at home and as we are in lock down i may do this the weekend
I like this idea I have done bare mixes at home and as we are in lock down i may do this the weekend
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Keeping them frozen as long as possible also makes them use friendly on the bank if you do have to use a catty.
Keeping them frozen as long as possible also makes them use friendly on the bank if you do have to use a catty.
In reply to Post #8
Good tip
Good tip
In reply to Post #9
roll them and put them on a tray in freezer and bag them when they are solid so you have completely fresh (uncooked) round balls of paste, get some dry ice and they will stay frozen for few days in good cool box... putting out paste with stick making no real disturbance is a tactic you will not see many use
roll them and put them on a tray in freezer and bag them when they are solid so you have completely fresh (uncooked) round balls of paste, get some dry ice and they will stay frozen for few days in good cool box... putting out paste with stick making no real disturbance is a tactic you will not see many use
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i thick i may be onto something with this.
freezing them is a whole new avenue.
i thick i may be onto something with this.
freezing them is a whole new avenue.
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Bear in mind they will turn to mush very quickly and you will be recasting a lot with just an uncooked boilie. If you want to go along the non boiled bait route there is so much more you can do than just not cooking a boilie. I have made uncooked hookbaits that will last 12 hrs in the water and have caught me some very decent fish; both UK and French PB's were on 'mature' paste baits. These take 3-6 months to fully form so that they work as intended, i.e. developing internal organic acids and compounds that negate the need for any flavour to be required. No egg, pure liquid food and a base mix of all the stuff carp will just pick up, the signal given off is significant. It won't suit every lakebed though, and not every desired presentation, and is not easy to perfect, but is certainly very rewarding when it works..
Ps, and never add water to a hookbait, why would anyone ever do that?
Bear in mind they will turn to mush very quickly and you will be recasting a lot with just an uncooked boilie. If you want to go along the non boiled bait route there is so much more you can do than just not cooking a boilie. I have made uncooked hookbaits that will last 12 hrs in the water and have caught me some very decent fish; both UK and French PB's were on 'mature' paste baits. These take 3-6 months to fully form so that they work as intended, i.e. developing internal organic acids and compounds that negate the need for any flavour to be required. No egg, pure liquid food and a base mix of all the stuff carp will just pick up, the signal given off is significant. It won't suit every lakebed though, and not every desired presentation, and is not easy to perfect, but is certainly very rewarding when it works..
Ps, and never add water to a hookbait, why would anyone ever do that?
In reply to Post #12
Dont have to put them on as hookbait as such, you can use anything harder than that to stay on.
Dont have to put them on as hookbait as such, you can use anything harder than that to stay on.
In reply to Post #12
not fishing them on the hook mate.
purely a baiting approach.
not fishing them on the hook mate.
purely a baiting approach.
In reply to Post #14
Even easier then, make up a base mix, no egg, just liquids, additives etc., form it into a block, vac pack for 2 weeks minimum, cut into slices then into cubes, spomb out.. You will of course be missing out fishing a plain boilie though..
Even easier then, make up a base mix, no egg, just liquids, additives etc., form it into a block, vac pack for 2 weeks minimum, cut into slices then into cubes, spomb out.. You will of course be missing out fishing a plain boilie though..
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Frozen paste balls (rolled like normal boilies, just not boiled) made with a decent high quality milk protein basemix are IMO some of the best winter baits you can use. John Baker is a massive advocate of paste wraps for hookbaits...but you never see anyone doing it! Edge
Frozen paste balls (rolled like normal boilies, just not boiled) made with a decent high quality milk protein basemix are IMO some of the best winter baits you can use. John Baker is a massive advocate of paste wraps for hookbaits...but you never see anyone doing it! Edge
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I agree, I always wrapa boilie in plenty of paste, had my biggest carp using this tactic.
I agree, I always wrapa boilie in plenty of paste, had my biggest carp using this tactic.
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Paste wraps! Back when I was younger I used to fish Horseshoe a lot. When it was warm I did really well fishing on the edges of blatant clear spots in Summer Bay. I used to mould a big lump of scalded trout pellet paste around the hookbait and hook, cast it out to the clip in the middle of the blatant spot and then pull my lead back until it locked up against the weed. By using a reasonable length hooklink this meant the bait was perfectly presented on the edge of the spot with the hook point being protected by the paste. It would dissolve quickly and I had numerous takes really quickly after casting out Bet you dont see many people do that these days 
Paste wraps! Back when I was younger I used to fish Horseshoe a lot. When it was warm I did really well fishing on the edges of blatant clear spots in Summer Bay. I used to mould a big lump of scalded trout pellet paste around the hookbait and hook, cast it out to the clip in the middle of the blatant spot and then pull my lead back until it locked up against the weed. By using a reasonable length hooklink this meant the bait was perfectly presented on the edge of the spot with the hook point being protected by the paste. It would dissolve quickly and I had numerous takes really quickly after casting out
Bet you dont see many people do that these days
Had a decent session in France quite a while back using odyssey xxx. Made myself some hookbaits as normal, wafters, pop ups etc, but then i made a paste wrap around the hookbaits. I incorporated crushed mealworm, snail shells all sorts of other bits, then air dried it for a few days. The paste would disintegrate in the water over a period of time leaving the hookbait. I've also used the scalded pellet over the hookbait too on short sessions.
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