Super-Lock Shallow Socket
anybody used this style ive ordered one as a small spare socket set, but im wondering if there ok?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BERGEN-Super-Lock-Shallow-Socket-6-13mm/dp/B0787484KJ
anybody used this style ive ordered one as a small spare socket set, but im wondering if there ok?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BERGEN-Super-Lock-Shallow-Socket-6-13mm/dp/B0787484KJ
In reply to Post #1
I've used something similar, corners not quite so recessed but still meant to drive on the flats like the ones you have. Were fine, probably better drive than 12 sided sockets.
I'm not convinced they drive any better than a good 6 sided socket but the radius in the corner should make the socket less prone to splitting
Doesn't mention the material unless I missed it but other sets by US Pro are Crome vanadium so should be good.
I've used something similar, corners not quite so recessed but still meant to drive on the flats like the ones you have. Were fine, probably better drive than 12 sided sockets.
I'm not convinced they drive any better than a good 6 sided socket but the radius in the corner should make the socket less prone to splitting
Doesn't mention the material unless I missed it but other sets by US Pro are Crome vanadium so should be good.
In reply to Post #2
thanks
thanks
In reply to Post #1
Yep, used to use them a lot back as an hgv mechanic. The design was originally meant for when the corners had been rounded off the nut or bolt iirc. Used to be bloody expensive, but that was 20+ years ago
Yep, used to use them a lot back as an hgv mechanic. The design was originally meant for when the corners had been rounded off the nut or bolt iirc. Used to be bloody expensive, but that was 20+ years ago
In reply to Post #1
Bought a set of the same back in october for working on motorbikes so far been very good.
Bought a set of the same back in october for working on motorbikes so far been very good.
In reply to Post #1
Did you buy these in the end and are they any good for nuts and bolts that are slightly rounded?
I struggled with some exhaust clamp bolts a couple of years ago, maybe these might of helped.?
Did you buy these in the end and are they any good for nuts and bolts that are slightly rounded?
I struggled with some exhaust clamp bolts a couple of years ago, maybe these might of helped.?
In reply to Post #6
They were designed for rounded off bolts...
They were designed for rounded off bolts...
In reply to Post #7
Thanks at the price I think I'll get them. Might come in handy one day
Edit
Or maybe I need 1/2" drive?
Thanks at the price I think I'll get them. Might come in handy one day
Edit
Or maybe I need 1/2" drive?
In reply to Post #8
I guess it depends on how much heavy work you will be doing. 3/8 will suffice for most home enthusiast's but half inch might be a better option if you've got heavily rusted or larger stuff to undo. For the price in the op link looks a steal, Bergen used to do pretty decent tools back in the day so if quality hasn't slipped you might be onto a winner
I guess it depends on how much heavy work you will be doing. 3/8 will suffice for most home enthusiast's but half inch might be a better option if you've got heavily rusted or larger stuff to undo. For the price in the op link looks a steal, Bergen used to do pretty decent tools back in the day so if quality hasn't slipped you might be onto a winner
In reply to Post #9
Ordered
Ordered
In reply to Post #6
i did buy these, and for the same reason and sump bolts etc, i have not used them yet, but for the price if they work once, then im ok with that
i did buy these, and for the same reason and sump bolts etc, i have not used them yet, but for the price if they work once, then im ok with that
In reply to Post #11
I've got mine. I hope I don't need them in a way, means I've not come across a problem
If these sockets are better can someone tell me why all sockets are not made this way?
I've got mine. I hope I don't need them in a way, means I've not come across a problem
If these sockets are better can someone tell me why all sockets are not made this way?
In reply to Post #12
I Never given it much thought but the only things I can suggest are as follows.
1.The 12 sided socket would justify its existence in that it would be easier to fit to a bolt head than a 6 sided.
2. Both the 6 sided sockets drive better but the tooling to make straight sides would probably be cheaper to produce than that for curved sides, thus the two types of 6 sided.
I Never given it much thought but the only things I can suggest are as follows.
1.The 12 sided socket would justify its existence in that it would be easier to fit to a bolt head than a 6 sided.
2. Both the 6 sided sockets drive better but the tooling to make straight sides would probably be cheaper to produce than that for curved sides, thus the two types of 6 sided.
In reply to Post #12
Better at what?
You don't come across 12 sided bolts/nuts. A socket is the contact to the object you're about to introduce a force through. Greater the force the better a larger surface area contact. The same way you'd use the open end of a combination spanner on a tight nut. Or end up with bleeding knuckles
Better at what?
You don't come across 12 sided bolts/nuts. A socket is the contact to the object you're about to introduce a force through. Greater the force the better a larger surface area contact. The same way you'd use the open end of a combination spanner on a tight nut. Or end up with bleeding knuckles
So a 12 sided socket is better for worn nuts and bolts?
But a 6 sided socket is better in that with more contact area it can apply more force?
But a 6 sided socket is better in that with more contact area it can apply more force?
In reply to Post #15
No, perhaps I didn't explain my reasoning well enough.
I meant a 12 sided would be easier to fit onto a good hexagonal bolt or nut.
12 sides would give you double the chance of dropping on the hexagon of a bolt/ nut so on average you would only need to rotate the socket half the angle for it to align with the nut / bolt. Especially useful if you are using a breaker or T bar in a restricted space.
With a 6 sided you need to align it perfectly for it to drop on.
As you said in your second statement a 6 sided socket provides more contact area so better for strength.
The one with rounded corners just drives on the flats so works even if the nut/ bolt corners have been destroyed.
No, perhaps I didn't explain my reasoning well enough.
I meant a 12 sided would be easier to fit onto a good hexagonal bolt or nut.
12 sides would give you double the chance of dropping on the hexagon of a bolt/ nut so on average you would only need to rotate the socket half the angle for it to align with the nut / bolt. Especially useful if you are using a breaker or T bar in a restricted space.
With a 6 sided you need to align it perfectly for it to drop on.
As you said in your second statement a 6 sided socket provides more contact area so better for strength.
The one with rounded corners just drives on the flats so works even if the nut/ bolt corners have been destroyed.
In reply to Post #16
Thanks
Thanks
In reply to Post #15
Don't drive tight nuts from the corners, drive them from the flats. Don't use a shallow socket on tight nuts, use as deep as the depth of the bolt head, minimum. Or you'll create rounded and damaged bolt/nut heads. Surface area
Don't drive tight nuts from the corners, drive them from the flats. Don't use a shallow socket on tight nuts, use as deep as the depth of the bolt head, minimum. Or you'll create rounded and damaged bolt/nut heads. Surface area
In reply to Post #18
BTW I'd say the set in post #1 is average depth rather than shallow and should be deep enough for the nuts and bolts I'm likely to come across.
BTW I'd say the set in post #1 is average depth rather than shallow and should be deep enough for the nuts and bolts I'm likely to come across.
In reply to Post #14
Not quite correct, there are 12 sided bolts around. Normally for special uses but I've come across them a few times on flywheels, big end bolts etc.
Not quite correct, there are 12 sided bolts around. Normally for special uses but I've come across them a few times on flywheels, big end bolts etc.
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