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Needing a strong hook ? (27 posts / 2,849 views)
chopper chopper
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Post #1 16 Aug 2020 22:19
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I've just started fishing a fairly weedy lake. I've been using the korda hooks as the hooks I use to use and like I can't seem to get hold of. ( Drenam super specialist). I don't like using the korda hooks as I find that bend to easy. the question is what strong hook do you recommend for fishing a weedy lake
phil090781
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Post #2 16 Aug 2020 23:24
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Gardner continental range, or carp R Us centurions if you can find them.

Korda do their ‘X' versions too which are a thicker gauge. I don't buy in to the ‘Korda hooks are crap' b*llocks, I've never had an issue personally.
yonny yonny
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Post #3 17 Aug 2020 07:44
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I tested a bunch of hooks in my lab at work a few years ago and Atomic came out the toughest. They're hard as nails.
DarthMullet
Posts: 321
Post #4 17 Aug 2020 10:10
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In reply to Post #3
Definitely Atomic. Brilliant hooks.
Lb1983
Posts: 177
Post #5 17 Aug 2020 10:35
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In reply to Post #1
Owners or the carp r us as mentioned are seriously strong hooks
elltell elltell
Posts: 1,571
Post #6 17 Aug 2020 11:37
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In reply to Post #1
I used to use Solar 101s stronghold but last couple of years used the Carp R Us ATS Continentals in size 2, a beast of a hook👍👍
Cheers
Tel
hyperloop hyperloop
Posts: 2,798
Post #7 17 Aug 2020 11:53
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In reply to Post #1
Gardner Continental Mugga's are super strong, + another vote for Atomic's.

Anything will be stronger than the super specialists... they're chub hooks.
chopper chopper
Posts: 4,767
Post #8 17 Aug 2020 15:36
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I didn't realize carp r us where still going ? Thort that had disappeared years ago. I did use them about 20 years ago and found the hooks good
yonny yonny
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Post #9 17 Aug 2020 15:38
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In reply to Post #8
Their Centurions are a proper beast of a hook. I'll use them for snags but for a bit of weed I don't think you need anything particularity special.
elltell elltell
Posts: 1,571
Post #10 17 Aug 2020 16:59
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In reply to Post #8
Ray and the team are still going strong, free p&p and special 20% discount till end of August
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Tel
elltell elltell
Posts: 1,571
Post #11 17 Aug 2020 17:17
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In reply to Post #9
The Continentals are an addition to the cRu range, a slightly different version of the original Centurion 2000. Features a longer Ultra sharp point, slightly longer shank and looks to be slightly heavier gauge wire.
Cheers
Tel
Calabro
Posts: 335
Post #12 17 Aug 2020 22:42
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In reply to Post #1
Had the exact same issue with Korda on my weedy venue. Hooks bent and broke very frequently. Tried and tested several brands, and have been using Gardner without any problems for over two years.
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
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Post #13 17 Aug 2020 23:02
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In reply to Post #3
Another vote for Atomic. Chodda is a brilliant hook, mega strong.
wingnuttz wingnuttz
Posts: 524
Post #14 19 Aug 2020 10:32
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In reply to Post #13
A nice strong hook is the owner c1 flyliner.
chopper chopper
Posts: 4,767
Post #15 20 Aug 2020 02:12
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In reply to Post #14
Use to use the owner hooks a lot. But can't seem to find them anywhere. Mind you I went threw a spell of bending them and even snapped some in a lake with no weed or snags and most fish where mid dubble
Jslinn Jslinn
Posts: 2,403
Post #16 20 Aug 2020 17:50
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In reply to Post #6
Been using the Carp R Us Hooks since 1996 nothing else's comes close absolutely love the Centurions in 12-10-8-6 and have used the predators and others in theirs range IMHO.

I do use the Solar 101 for a pop up rig it throw together a decade ago and impressed with their strength.

Although more recently I've been pretty impressed by the Gardner Range.
wetnet wetnet
Posts: 1,062
Post #17 21 Aug 2020 07:49
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In reply to Post #12
I've used korda widegape x's on extremely weedy waters and never had an issue. I'm not a massive fan of korda but I think there hooks get bad press. The standard korda range is light weight but the X and XX are great hooks in my eyes.
Jslinn Jslinn
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Post #18 22 Aug 2020 18:52
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In reply to Post #17
A several years ago I gave Korda terminal Tackle a try the hooks and hooks lengths broke on me so gave it all to the Bin. Having said that I have used their Boom more recently until I found a better alternative.



I'm near the end of my original Kryston stock and know It's something I'll need to sort much to my frustration.
Calabro
Posts: 335
Post #19 22 Aug 2020 20:39
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In reply to Post #17
I'm not saying all their hooks are crap. What I do know is that they cost me about 15 fish last year, including a known fifty. They either bent or broke. I switched to Gardner and 1,5 years later I have not yet lost a fish due to my hooks.
SteveHarris
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Post #20 23 Aug 2020 09:18
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Carp R Us centurion 2000 are very good. Used them at Rainbow and was not let down.
IcantCatchCarp
Posts: 515
Post #21 24 Aug 2020 12:06
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In reply to Post #19
15 fish? I'd have changed after then 2nd or 3rd broke or bent
yonny yonny
Posts: 7,934
Post #22 24 Aug 2020 12:24
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You had 15 Korda hooks bend or break before you changed?
That is almost unbelievable.
There are two faults that can cause that: Too soft and they can bend, too hard and they can break (they become brittle). Having both in a single batch of hooks is almost impossible. Having both in multiple batches is unlikely.
Of course, a perfectly good hook (i.e. not too soft or hard) can bend or break if the hook hold is not good. A hook is basically a spring and if the force isn't loaded as intended they can fail. Maybe you were using a pattern that wasn't suited to the rig?
I have tested Korda hooks previously in my lab and while they are on the softer end of the spectrum they're nowhere near as bad as some suggest. I'd be happy to use them in all but the most demanding situations.
biggsyhaulin biggsyhaulin
Posts: 1,667
Post #23 24 Aug 2020 12:30
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In reply to Post #22
Solar 101s,never let me down
ip100 ip100
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Post #24 24 Aug 2020 13:56
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In reply to Post #22
Very unbelievable
Pimp Pimp
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Post #25 24 Aug 2020 14:49
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In reply to Post #24
Drenan continentals mate
Calabro
Posts: 335
Post #26 25 Aug 2020 13:17
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In reply to Post #22
I know, I should have from hindsight. But I only got back to carp fishing two years ago after 20 years of piking. Had a very tough first season and landed on some good fish during the second. Had a badly stocked tackle box. Maybe tough to believe, but once you have a shed full of crap for pike, you do not just spend thousands on carp tackle as long as you're not sure if you will continue fishing for them. The owner of my tackle shop advised some endtackle and off I went. Had about three packs of hooks. After two or three failures from the first package, I threw it away and tried the other two with the same results. In the end I went to the tackle shop and the second owner said I shouldn't buy those Korda's because they're a mess. He gave me some Gardners and my problems were solved.

Don't get me wrong. May have sure been in part because of some beginner's error or a bad batch and the conditions were very demanding, with many fish snagged in the weeds. But I've never had any patterns that weak ever since (nor have I caught as many carp over the course of two week)s. Caught the bug since then and I always take multiple patterns now.
vossy1 vossy1
MODERATORMOD
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Post #27 25 Aug 2020 15:38
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In reply to Post #1
I fish a very weedy lake and have been using Korda Kranks without any issue, perhaps it's the pattern as opposed to the hook that's the problem. Solar Stronghold have a decent rep.
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