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Geoff Kemp rods (46 posts / 4,430 views)
oldblueboy
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Post #1 6 Apr 2020 10:50
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Can anyone help me,
I'm trying to find some information about the old Geoff kemp carp rods,
I'm having a decision on Twitter about them, but at the moment, no one knows about them,
I know he done them, as I a old mate had a set, and even saw them,
But can't find anything on them,
Any help would be grateful,
As I 100% he done rods, and make sure I'm not losing the plot
Cheers in advance
Pooter
Posts: 395
Post #2 6 Apr 2020 11:15
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In reply to Post #1
There is an advert in an old carp fisher mag I have, memory being what it is think they were 11' and 1.5tc.
oldblueboy
Posts: 150
Post #3 6 Apr 2020 11:24
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In reply to Post #2
That's what I remember, 11ft but thought maybe 1-3/4 ? but maybe 1-1/2
I do remember a couple of companies copying the rod design ?
What I remember, is not being able to find a set, so I ended up getting the Bruce and Walker 11ft 26oz rods for smaller waters, and close in fishing
And tricast 12 ft 2-1/4 mr rods for mid to long range
Pooter
Posts: 395
Post #4 6 Apr 2020 11:26
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In reply to Post #3
Seeing as time is on my hands, I'll have a trawl through and see if I can find it.
oldblueboy
Posts: 150
Post #5 6 Apr 2020 11:31
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In reply to Post #4
I'm gonna look as well,
As no one seams to know about them who I'm chatting to,
including someone who printed Geoff's bait Brochures back in the day, not knowing about them,
Just want to make sure, and double check 👍
JohnnyEnglish JohnnyEnglish
Posts: 237
Post #6 6 Apr 2020 11:32
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In reply to Post #4
They were advertised in the CAA Book, 1984. There was a range of three rods. 11 ft x 1.5 lb TC. 11.5 ft x 1.75 lb TC. 12 ft x 2 lb TC. Duplon handle, FPS reel seat, Fuji rings.
oldblueboy
Posts: 150
Post #7 6 Apr 2020 11:36
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In reply to Post #6
Cheers mate 👍
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #8 6 Apr 2020 11:37
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In reply to Post #1
I could be wrong but I think they were built by Vic Gillings and sold out of a few selected London tackle shops. I bought mine from Penge Angling. IIRC they were 2lb test and 12' long. I used them in the mid-80s on the local ressies. I have no idea why I sold them as they were lovely rods and a pleasure to fish with. The rod on the right in this shot is one of my pair. The other rod is a Simpson's of Turnford-built 1.75lb test Sportex that my missus used.



Pooter
Posts: 395
Post #9 6 Apr 2020 11:45
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In reply to Post #4
Found the advert in Carp fisher#8, page 56:
11ft 1.5tc £73.95
11ft6ins 1.75tc £83.50
12ft 2tc £85.95.

Just for the record Carp Fisher #5 has the Duncan Kay range developed with the Chiltern Rod Co. and sold by Leslies:

11ft6ins 1.5/8tc £75
12ft 1.7/8tc £75

12ft 2.5tc and 13ft models yet to be released.

Prehistory there.
oldblueboy
Posts: 150
Post #10 6 Apr 2020 11:47
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In reply to Post #8
Cheers ken,
I also think they were sold in dons of Edmonton as well, were Richie Mac worked,
They were lovely rods, but like I said, they sold out when I went to get a pair,
So ended up with the Bruce and walker, which were also lovely rods,
Thanks for the replies gents 👏👍
For a moment, I thought I had lost the plot,
and was doing my nut in not being able to find any details anywhere !
oldblueboy
Posts: 150
Post #11 6 Apr 2020 11:51
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In reply to Post #9
Cheers 👍
Thankfully I wasn't imagining it 😂
I can settle down now 👏
PaulTheotherone PaulTheotherone
Posts: 30
Post #12 6 Apr 2020 12:03
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In reply to Post #10
Dons was a great tackle shop, fondly remember and miss both Dons and the Carp Cellar in Watford.
oldblueboy
Posts: 150
Post #13 6 Apr 2020 12:07
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In reply to Post #8
Ken, I'm chatting with a well know angler,on Twitter,
you know him well,
And asked if I can put up the photo,
Would you mind if I mentioned you ?
Cheers, Tim
oldblueboy
Posts: 150
Post #14 6 Apr 2020 12:10
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In reply to Post #12
Dons, trevs of Walthamstow, just up the road from the ressies,
And ashpoles of Islington, in stoke newington
And the carp cellar was amazing 😉
Do yo remember the tackle shop that opened in the parade of shops in Rickmansworth for a few years ?
Mid 90s
KenTownley KenTownley
Posts: 30,593
Post #15 6 Apr 2020 14:09
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In reply to Post #8
EDIT: The rod on the left in the photo is the Kemp rod. I'm dyslexic on matters of left and right...sorry!

@OBB: No problem. Whoever it is, give him my best...!
oldblueboy
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Post #16 6 Apr 2020 14:15
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In reply to Post #15
Cheers, it's actually jules, the Selby flyer ?
PaulTheotherone PaulTheotherone
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Post #17 6 Apr 2020 14:59
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In reply to Post #14
Yes I do, wasn't it on the Uxbridge road not far from the Aquadrome?
Nick Nick
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Post #18 6 Apr 2020 17:32
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In reply to Post #14
wasnt it colne valley angling or something like that?

i remember going in there - quite a small place...

between Ricky and maple cross?


oldblueboy
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Post #19 6 Apr 2020 18:42
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In reply to Post #18
Yes, Colne Valley angling,
It was quite good in there at the start, but didn't last too long
Harefield tackle was just too strong for them, and much more variety, course fishing,match fishing, and carp and specimen fishing,
Plus a good range of baits and ingredients and such,
oldblueboy
Posts: 150
Post #20 6 Apr 2020 18:42
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In reply to Post #17
Yes mate, that's the one,
SUNNYMEAD SUNNYMEAD
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Post #21 6 Apr 2020 18:58
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In reply to Post #9
Still have 3 12ft Duncan Kay rods there a bit knackerd now though
littleian littleian
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Post #22 6 Apr 2020 21:26
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In reply to Post #21
I met a chap on wicks mere a few years ago that had a set of 11 ½ ft 1¾ t.c or something like that, lovely smooth matt finish and full duplons with front flares, these were his only rods owned since new used on some pretty epic waters etc anyway he literally bent them pretty much tip to butt, i was gobsmacked!
ChrisNicholls ChrisNicholls
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Post #23 7 Apr 2020 08:19
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I had a set of the 1.75lb rods, they were built by Graeme of Dymag fame.
clicky clicky
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Post #24 7 Apr 2020 08:56
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the old penge angling shop at Rayleigh weir sold them,when dave potter run it..am I correct they had green whippings ?
littleian littleian
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Post #25 7 Apr 2020 14:34
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In reply to Post #24
They did Clicky, cor penge angling now that was a proper shop and Dave was a proper gent
clicky clicky
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Post #26 7 Apr 2020 15:05
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In reply to Post #25
yes was a great little shop, very knowledgeable guy dave was.helped me and my mates a lot..remember dave telling us about Kev Ellis's big casein fish..the building is still there..sadly not a tackle shop anymore..
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #27 7 Apr 2020 15:08
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I think this was the original Penge Angling shop run by a very tall ginge called Mike Davis.



Page of the 1982/3 catalogue:



clicky clicky
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Post #28 7 Apr 2020 15:15
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In reply to Post #27
I was 15 then ken,couldnt afford any :(
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #29 7 Apr 2020 15:31
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In reply to Post #28
Kids, eh...?
clicky clicky
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Post #30 7 Apr 2020 15:34
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In reply to Post #29
todays haven't had it so lucky
littleian littleian
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Post #31 7 Apr 2020 15:36
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In reply to Post #26
It was mate, i used to fish doggets in the days before it was properly taken over and my first job was working for nashy 28 years ago when he was at Brook road in Rayleigh, anyway I'd done a work overnighter and caught my first 20 which was a well known fish locally (nicked from aquatels i believe) and nashy came out and congratulated me with a message from Dave Potter who'd informed him of the capture, he said a bigger one jumped on the otherside of swan island, you couldn't get anything past Dave lol! Sorry to the op I've gone off track.
ocelot ocelot
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Post #32 7 Apr 2020 15:39
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In reply to Post #27
Geoff's write up with his rods tickled me. As true today as it was then
clicky clicky
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Post #33 7 Apr 2020 15:42
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In reply to Post #31
I remember nashys old place in brook road, shame the angling direct shop/supermarket now stands in both nashys and penge anglings shadows.
clicky clicky
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Post #34 7 Apr 2020 15:44
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In reply to Post #32
I wonder if he designed them for weald bottom lake? he did lots of time there, unless yavas was all in the edge when he was in the syndicate.
oldblueboy
Posts: 150
Post #35 7 Apr 2020 15:46
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In reply to Post #27
I didn't realise that they made the rods for Geoff Kemp,
And thanks for the help chaps 👍
oldblueboy
Posts: 150
Post #36 7 Apr 2020 15:46
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In reply to Post #27
I didn't realise that they made the rods for Geoff Kemp,
And thanks for the help chaps 👍
oldblueboy
Posts: 150
Post #37 7 Apr 2020 15:47
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In reply to Post #36
Sorry, double post 🤔
littleian littleian
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Post #38 7 Apr 2020 15:51
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In reply to Post #33
It is a shame, not many traditional shops left around here now. i think the best thing about penge apart from Dave and Martin was the incredible smell you used to get from the flavours as soon as you went in, it always smelt like a sweet shop. i couldn't afford much of what they sold but i spent a lot of time browsing in there and Dave was always happy to impart wisdom and suffer the barrage of questions i always had for him! I think the word patient springs to mind haha!
keagem
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Post #39 28 May 2021 16:51
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In reply to Post #27
I have a pair of the original 1 3/4lb. with the penge angling/ geoff kemp logos and the green/black whippings. beautiful action when playing a fish. now surplus to requirements(i am 83 and no longer drive). was going to sell them cheap but now i am wondering. does anyone know if there is a market for them. i bought the secondhand over 30years ago.
frothey frothey
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Post #40 28 May 2021 17:12
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In reply to Post #32
... and people don't believe us when we say we used to use 2.75 test at 120yds+!!

4lb line though 😂
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #41 28 May 2021 17:19
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Many moons ago at Lower T... Two iconic light carp rods in the backgound!

frothey frothey
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Post #42 28 May 2021 17:24
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In reply to Post #41
Ken - what were the distance rods you saw Geoff and the Prem boys using on college. I've got Merlins stuck in my head but I know thats wrong lol

I even went back through your SW Memories but couldn't find it
DaveSG DaveSG
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Post #43 28 May 2021 17:30
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In reply to Post #42
Geoff Bowers was in a Bruce & Walker ad promoting a Merlin range of rods the Ld one being called ' The Beast ' 13' 3lb
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #44 29 May 2021 09:21
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In reply to Post #42
Got a feeling a few of them were using Armalites, as per Gary Thomas and Mark England. Those two could cast forever.
frothey frothey
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Post #45 5 Jun 2021 10:01
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In reply to Post #43
That's the ones, cheers 👌
kells kells
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Post #46 5 Jun 2021 10:23
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This thread brings back a few memorys. A mate of mine built his own set from blanks acquired.. cough.... when he worked for Penge angling on the Croydon rd. 11. 1/2 ft 1. 3/4lb test Conoflex blanks from memory. The rods battle curve seemed to go on forever.
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