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Putting new line on (55 posts / 4,834 views)
onestripe
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Post #1 4 Apr 2020 22:04
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Beginner ish to carp fishing
What's the best way to put the line on
Seen loads of vids on Utube, with lots of different ways
Surely there should be one proper way of doing it
Scott777
Posts: 381
Post #2 4 Apr 2020 22:17
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In reply to Post #1
My way, soak the spool in a bucket of warm water for couple of hours, load onto reel under v slight tension through a tea towel. I always make sure that the line goes onto the reel the same way it comes off the spool. Not saying this is the definitive way but it works for me
Apps316 Apps316
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Post #3 4 Apr 2020 22:43
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In reply to Post #2
Same
onestripe
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Post #4 4 Apr 2020 22:50
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In reply to Post #2
So do you have the line on its side or standing up
Halfcentury
Posts: 1,284
Post #5 4 Apr 2020 23:20
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In reply to Post #4
Look in general carp discussions under "spoiling a reel alone" and it is spoiling, 3 out of 10 for spelling. Look at chuffys post with the photograph. Sorted.
bluebeat13
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Post #6 4 Apr 2020 23:30
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For me this method works better than having the spool on its side. Just make sure you keep a steady pace as if you stop suddenly the spool keeps spinning and you have a bit of a pickle

https://youtu.be/_cWWGPOki8k
carpy09 carpy09
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Post #7 4 Apr 2020 23:44
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In reply to Post #1
I have the spool on its side floating in warm water in a cereal storage container and have the line coming of the spool from the underneath which goes on the reel spool with zero twist reeling the line on under tension through 2 fingers
carpslayer01293 carpslayer01293
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Post #8 5 Apr 2020 08:26
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In reply to Post #7
Exactly how I do mine
Scott777
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Post #9 5 Apr 2020 09:33
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In reply to Post #4
I have the spool laying flat in the bucket, but I think it's key that it's the right way up, which means it's winding on to the reel in the same direction it comes off the spool. 👍🏻
onestripe
Posts: 276
Post #10 5 Apr 2020 10:38
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In reply to Post #9
wont it only wind on the reel one way
does that mean you have to have the line the way up that matches the only way it goes on the reel
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #11 5 Apr 2020 10:59
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Going back people used to put a pencil through the spool and get someone to hold it while you wound new line on.
Then someone came up with the idea of allowing the line to come off the lip of the spool with (usually) the label facing you. Then for many including myself it's gone back full circle and back to the first idea but with some improvements such as removing the pencil but achieving the same effect by the putting the spool in a container of water like in post #6.

Plenty of videos on youtube but I like this one which is similar to the one in post #6 but suggests around the 5 minute mark that taking the line off the lip only works for some lines.
LINK
carpe_diem carpe_diem
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Post #12 5 Apr 2020 11:24
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In reply to Post #11
I use this method but I put my spool in a narrow cereal container so the spools has no way of toppling over
Halfcentury
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Post #13 5 Apr 2020 12:52
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I have always used something for the spool to spin on a la chuffy and so I was told long ago, avoid line twist. Never had any probs with line twist. Don't know whether this is relevant but I was once working on a farm and the farmer wished to run a water supply about 250 yards using the blue polyprop water pipe. It was delivered on large spools. Instead of the hassle of lifting the very heavy spool and mounting it on a spindle he got a couple lads to pull it over the lip of the spool and he dragged it with th tractor
Result. 250 yard long slinky that would not straighten, lie down or be buried. It has probably become a local landmark by now. Food for thought.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #14 5 Apr 2020 12:59
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In reply to Post #13
Those converted to that method would say those coils are going directly onto the spool in the same fashion.
Taking your point about the water pipe that's the same as running cable from a drum murder if you do it that way.
I predict arguments for both methods but I'm sticking to the method in my previous post
Halfcentury
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Post #15 5 Apr 2020 13:35
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In reply to Post #14
I'll stick with my method, if youre confident in yours, use it.
onestripe
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Post #16 5 Apr 2020 13:39
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In reply to Post #7
so do you have the line,label side down
Label side being the top, other end being the underneath
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #17 5 Apr 2020 13:43
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In reply to Post #15
I think we are using the same method

onestripe
Posts: 276
Post #18 5 Apr 2020 14:01
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In reply to Post #17
i thought Halfcentury lays the spool on its side
where you keep the spool upright
onestripe
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Post #19 5 Apr 2020 14:04
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In reply to Post #17
no your right he doesn't lay the spool on its side, he does it like you lol
Halfcentury
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Post #20 5 Apr 2020 14:17
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In reply to Post #17
Sorry mate. I am using the same method. When I said "youre method" didn't mean you I meant anyone. Every body is probably more confused now, including me. Time for a lie down. After that will push a pencil through a spool and get the wife to hold it while I fill a spool.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #21 5 Apr 2020 15:00
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In reply to Post #20
Got confusing for a while didn't it

Onestripe just to be sure Halfcentury and myself both lay our spools on the side and not have the line come off the lip
onestripe
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Post #22 5 Apr 2020 15:21
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In reply to Post #21


so like this
woody71
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Post #23 5 Apr 2020 15:59
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In reply to Post #22
That is also the method i use the one in the esp link, in post 13 halfcentury mentions the other method with it coming off the lip of the spool and refers to a water pipe being unable to straighten as when it comes off the spool it has coils in it.

The guys that spool up this way generally do it with the line coming of the spool anticlockwise because some think as it goes onto the spool clockwise the coils straighten themselves out
Scott777
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Post #24 5 Apr 2020 16:10
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So just to confuse matters even more, I actually use synchro xt but put it on with the spool flat. Now I've seen that video I'm questioning whether I should change tactic. Wish I hadn't commented now 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #25 5 Apr 2020 16:29
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In reply to Post #22
Yes.
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #26 5 Apr 2020 16:36
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In reply to Post #21
Halfcentury and myself both lay our spools on the side

Don't you mean you both put a pencil (or similar) through the spool and have it spinning?


This thread is a bit confusing to say the least, God help the OP
mark1009
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Post #27 5 Apr 2020 16:41
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In reply to Post #22
That's the way I've always done it. Soak overnight and put a pencil through the spool and wind it on under slight tension through a cloth.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #28 5 Apr 2020 17:04
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In reply to Post #26
The same method in that the spool is in the same orientation.
The pencil is not always used if the spool is inside a container such as the one in post #22.

In reply post#27
Some say you should only soak for around 30-60 minutes. If you do it longer the line will absorb too much water and expand causing problems with line lay when it dries out.
I don't know if that's the case but that's something else we can get confused about
Halfcentury
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Post #29 5 Apr 2020 17:30
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In reply to Post #28
Yes!. Don't know about the soaking though.
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #30 5 Apr 2020 17:47
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In reply to Post #28
So you don't lay them on their side then?
mark1009
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Post #31 5 Apr 2020 18:06
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In reply to Post #28
I've heard that but not found it to be a problem.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #32 5 Apr 2020 19:08
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In reply to Post #30
No the same way as you do it.

In reply to Post #31
I'm not sure if it causes a problem either. Maybe some lines are super absorbent?


Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #33 5 Apr 2020 19:20
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I see, what confused me was in post #21 you said Halfcentury and myself both lay our spools on the side

just trying to clear it up in case the OP has a nose bleed by now
onestripe
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Post #34 5 Apr 2020 19:37
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Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #35 5 Apr 2020 19:42
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In reply to Post #33
Sorry my mistake I didn't realise I wrote that
I thought people were on a wind up keep on asking me asking the same question, now I know why
ocelot ocelot
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Post #36 5 Apr 2020 19:43
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In reply to Post #32
Some lines definitely are. I've had 2 spools burst the lip off after soaking certain lines overnight before spooling them up. Only ever plastic spools though.
onestripe
Posts: 276
Post #37 5 Apr 2020 19:50
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In reply to Post #34
So chuffy and blankalot do it like post 34 image line on it's side
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #38 5 Apr 2020 21:42
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In reply to Post #37
To be honest those terms can cause confusion so putting it another way this way up
onestripe
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Post #39 5 Apr 2020 21:53
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How did you get the picture in the post like that
I'm just learning how to use this site
onestripe
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Post #40 5 Apr 2020 21:54
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In reply to Post #38
Yep just as I thought
onestripe
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Post #41 5 Apr 2020 21:57
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In reply to Post #38
Is that your set up, or are you just using it as a example
Cam Cam
MODERATORMOD
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Post #42 5 Apr 2020 21:58
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Instructions are in the link I gave you before for doing links but it is under the heading
How do I insert a picture into a post?
noj
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Social photographer... Post #43 5 Apr 2020 22:04
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In reply to Post #38
I do it the same way but only briefly submerged in warm water
Works for me
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #44 5 Apr 2020 22:18
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In reply to Post #41
That picture is one that Chuffy found.
The info Cam gave you can be found HERE
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #45 5 Apr 2020 22:32
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In reply to Post #44
Thanks for clearing that up I thought I was going nuts for a mo

@ post#41 that is a pic of my actual set up when doing mono, with braid I do away with the pencil and the milk carton and just lay the spool in the bait box
onestripe
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Post #46 5 Apr 2020 22:37
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In reply to Post #40
Thanks for all the info
onestripe
Posts: 276
Post #47 8 Apr 2020 21:31
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In reply to Post #46
I saw on Utube someone said as the reel spool turns in a clockwise direction, then the line has to come off the line spool in a anticlockwise direction. This should stop line twists
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #48 8 Apr 2020 21:50
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In reply to Post #47
Some swear by that method but if you read this whole thread again from start to finish many prefer the other method.
If you're still undecided you'll just have to choose one and see how you get on. That's what most people on here done.
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #49 17 Apr 2020 16:14
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New video by Rob Hughes looks helpful
link
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #50 17 Apr 2020 17:23
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In reply to Post #49
That's good Only one thing being picky is he said no need to Soak new line for 24 hours but didn't actually say how long you should do it.
Still good though
Bigted50 Bigted50
Posts: 283
Post #51 17 Apr 2020 19:53
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In reply to Post #1
Been doing this for 40years.

Take spool that's been soaked for 20mins

Poke screwdriver through spool.

Get dad,sister,mates, then wife, kids, back to wife as kids too big and won't do it, too sit with spool facing you with tea towel each side so they don't burn hands.

Get reel on rod, thread line through eye on half butt of rod.

Wind line on making sure your assistant applys the correct amount of pressure, not too loose not too tight.

Job done, good training for your clan but they moan like mad when it's line time.

Nobody can tell me theres anything better, you need a bit of pressure and not pulled through something like a towel as it can over heat the line.

Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #52 17 Apr 2020 19:59
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In reply to Post #51
Rather than torturing the family how about one of these?
LINK
razorback razorback
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Post #53 17 Apr 2020 20:09
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In reply to Post #49
Brilliant that...👍👍

That front lip is very important as the chamfer is designed to kick the line off it like a cotton reel, with minimum resistance. All reels are different as well so finding the optimum line load point can be quite challenging.
Bigted50 Bigted50
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Post #54 17 Apr 2020 20:11
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In reply to Post #52
Yes same sort of thing, like them helping out here and there though, tell them it's life skills
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #55 17 Apr 2020 23:18
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In reply to Post #53
I learned that the hard way when I overfilled some xtbs, never had so many fraps
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