Whats peoples clubs being like regarding renewal
Mine has been brilliant ... Ive already paid but they have said people can to a break and pay when things return to normal so they dont lose their membership .. The club has a waiting list but they are doing all they can to support those struggling
They really have done a great thing
Mine has been brilliant ... Ive already paid but they have said people can to a break and pay when things return to normal so they dont lose their membership .. The club has a waiting list but they are doing all they can to support those struggling
They really have done a great thing
In reply to Post #1
All my venues are closed at the moment, one in close season and the other two fishing banned until the current lockdown is over.
My syndicate is in its close season and doesn't open until 15th April anyway (although in reality it will be a lot later than that). They haven't changed the renewal date (we had to pay by 1st April) nor said anything about what will happen if we're still on lock down when it opens.
Club No 1 also has to be renewed 1st April and has cost me £25 more as the work party that was scheduled for tomorrow has been cancelled so I'll have to pay a non-attendance fee.
Club 2 doesn't renew until 16th June, they have cancelled all their work parties up to that date and said they'll waive the work party non-attendance fee this year.
I've renewed the first two today at a cost of £650 which is a bit much when I don't even know if I'll be going this year. However as there's no chance of getting either ticket back if I drop them there's not a lot I can do.
Fingers crossed things improve while there's still some of the summer left.
All my venues are closed at the moment, one in close season and the other two fishing banned until the current lockdown is over.
My syndicate is in its close season and doesn't open until 15th April anyway (although in reality it will be a lot later than that). They haven't changed the renewal date (we had to pay by 1st April) nor said anything about what will happen if we're still on lock down when it opens.
Club No 1 also has to be renewed 1st April and has cost me £25 more as the work party that was scheduled for tomorrow has been cancelled so I'll have to pay a non-attendance fee.
Club 2 doesn't renew until 16th June, they have cancelled all their work parties up to that date and said they'll waive the work party non-attendance fee this year.
I've renewed the first two today at a cost of £650 which is a bit much when I don't even know if I'll be going this year. However as there's no chance of getting either ticket back if I drop them there's not a lot I can do.
Fingers crossed things improve while there's still some of the summer left.
In reply to Post #2
I'm pretty much in the same boat. But all our work parties are cancelled so I don't think they charge an opt out fee. My guess is they will just do the work parties later in the year instead.
I'm pretty much in the same boat. But all our work parties are cancelled so I don't think they charge an opt out fee. My guess is they will just do the work parties later in the year instead.
In reply to Post #2
Amazingly a syndicate I used to belong to that was more a private lake run by the owner has sent an message out (im still on the list somehow) saying peeps could do 3 options as he still had to feed the fish etc or they would lose weight
Thats the issue with some waters that the volume and size of fish in 3 acres cannot sustain itself ... Hopefully when we come out the a*se end of this perhaps anglers will realise that its nit about the trophy shot but the simple pleasure of being there
I can see quite a few fisheries go bust which will be a shame but I would guess its those that are overstocked holes
Amazingly a syndicate I used to belong to that was more a private lake run by the owner has sent an message out (im still on the list somehow) saying peeps could do 3 options as he still had to feed the fish etc or they would lose weight
Thats the issue with some waters that the volume and size of fish in 3 acres cannot sustain itself ... Hopefully when we come out the a*se end of this perhaps anglers will realise that its nit about the trophy shot but the simple pleasure of being there
I can see quite a few fisheries go bust which will be a shame but I would guess its those that are overstocked holes
In reply to Post #4
Agree wholeheartedly with you,I'm the same,its all about just being out there,enjoying the different weather patterns,and the flow of nature,all around...
Its the greatest thing...
Its also something i never ever take for granted, because nature can and will kick back...,man takes more than gives..!!
Agree wholeheartedly with you,I'm the same,its all about just being out there,enjoying the different weather patterns,and the flow of nature,all around...
Its the greatest thing...
Its also something i never ever take for granted, because nature can and will kick back...,man takes more than gives..!!
My club are still wanting renewals as normal (15th May is cut off)
They have said due to the disruption they will either extend the season or may knock a bit off next years ticket if this disruption is on for a significant period
So at the moment our club is renew or lose. With nearly 500 people on the waiting list they will have no issues filling any gaps in the membership but you'd like to think they would try and help out existing members where possible
They have said due to the disruption they will either extend the season or may knock a bit off next years ticket if this disruption is on for a significant period
So at the moment our club is renew or lose. With nearly 500 people on the waiting list they will have no issues filling any gaps in the membership but you'd like to think they would try and help out existing members where possible
In reply to Post #6
Unfortunately mine is end of Jan! Just after Xmas (cheers) but the season there runs from start of April.
Unfortunately mine is end of Jan! Just after Xmas (cheers) but the season there runs from start of April.
Mine was start of March , but is a syndicate in the true sense of the word, only 10 members whom lease the water we pay enough each to cover the rent, maintanance of water, additional feed and have a bit left over for whatever is needed....no one makes a profit ...therefore if we didn't pay on time, we couldn't pay the lease.......we will take on extra members if there the right sort of person and come recommend from existing members but we are all happy to keep it as the current 10, it is kept very low key so not many people know about it
.Rules are 1. Don't be a c@ck,
and 2. no nut baits...
Jobs a goodun.
Where as my club is different 2000+ members, I paid my works party waiver which runs from March to June for the best waters only, and the waters all closed 2 days later, they have stated there gonna extend this to all embers whom have done the work parties or paid the waiver to still have the benefit of doing so....
.Rules are 1. Don't be a c@ck,
and 2. no nut baits...
Jobs a goodun.
Where as my club is different 2000+ members, I paid my works party waiver which runs from March to June for the best waters only, and the waters all closed 2 days later, they have stated there gonna extend this to all embers whom have done the work parties or paid the waiver to still have the benefit of doing so....
My club fee is due by today but is obviously closed (although the two bailiffs were fishing it last week) and they want the full price now £350 and the season won't be extended so a few of us were discussing today what to do...
In reply to Post #9
I've paid a substantial amount for my ticket, I would love to think the renewal will be pushed forward next year, by however long this shutdown lasts.....well I can wish!
I've paid a substantial amount for my ticket, I would love to think the renewal will be pushed forward next year, by however long this shutdown lasts.....well I can wish!
In reply to Post #1
I paid a fare chunk to renew my syndicate membership, being as the trustees only lease the lake I wouldn't expect an extended years membership or part refund. The yearly lease fees still need to be paid regardless, I've paid for 12 months from March, and if we don't get on there until May or June etc so be it.
Just my take on this.
I paid a fare chunk to renew my syndicate membership, being as the trustees only lease the lake I wouldn't expect an extended years membership or part refund. The yearly lease fees still need to be paid regardless, I've paid for 12 months from March, and if we don't get on there until May or June etc so be it.
Just my take on this.
In reply to Post #11
That's the way I look at it as well
That's the way I look at it as well
In reply to Post #11
Spot on mate.
Spot on mate.
In reply to Post #9
So in a strange turn of events we have today received a message saying the lakes are now open!
So in a strange turn of events we have today received a message saying the lakes are now open!
In reply to Post #14
I think thats an April fools doing the rounds on FB etc
I think thats an April fools doing the rounds on FB etc
In reply to Post #15
LOL Didn't think about that... Although there were rumours that at least one of the baliffs has been fishing over there since last week as he is "keeping an eye on things"
I bet he is with all the big fish due out and the lake to himself!
LOL Didn't think about that... Although there were rumours that at least one of the baliffs has been fishing over there since last week as he is "keeping an eye on things"
I bet he is with all the big fish due out and the lake to himself!
I've just joined a new place Payed last week before thought I'd get a couple of sessions in before they say no movement Still waiting for ticket through post bet it's waiting to be posted it just like close season on the rivers really Can't wait for it to end everything is polished new rigs made we just need for it to end As long as people follow the guidance and stay in hopefully the number of deaths will reduce
Stay safe everyone
Stay safe everyone
In reply to Post #16
bit naughty that especially at this time of the year when all the fish are on the feed,oh and that we are on lockdown
bit naughty that especially at this time of the year when all the fish are on the feed,oh and that we are on lockdown
In reply to Post #9
if it's true that the bailiffs were fishing it last week in spite of the guidelines, then why the hell would you want to give money to a club like that?
tell them where to stick their membership and tell them why
just saying
if it's true that the bailiffs were fishing it last week in spite of the guidelines, then why the hell would you want to give money to a club like that?
tell them where to stick their membership and tell them why
just saying
In reply to Post #19
Yeah I was thinking exactly the same. It has really annoyed me!!
Just selfish and stupid... sort of people who think the rules don't apply to them!
Trouble is I literally have no other options on places to fish other than some local park lakes and day tickets which are terrible near me!
Yeah I was thinking exactly the same. It has really annoyed me!!
Just selfish and stupid... sort of people who think the rules don't apply to them!
Trouble is I literally have no other options on places to fish other than some local park lakes and day tickets which are terrible near me!
In reply to Post #20
I'd argue he's just doing his job, which he's fully entitled to do just like anyone of us can go to work. It's just that his job involves doing something that we would all love to be doing now.
Just a perk of his job is all it is
I'd argue he's just doing his job, which he's fully entitled to do just like anyone of us can go to work. It's just that his job involves doing something that we would all love to be doing now.
Just a perk of his job is all it is
In reply to Post #21
I'd argue that his job is to police the lake not fish. Normally there is a perk that he can fish but not during lockdown he should only be there for essential duties
I'd argue that his job is to police the lake not fish. Normally there is a perk that he can fish but not during lockdown he should only be there for essential duties
In reply to Post #22
The other members I spoke to all feel the same... like fishing in the closed season.
Happy for him to be there and look after the place if needed. It's all fenced off and only members have codes for the lock so it's not like people can just go over there for a walk. Bit of strange one... we are not sure if he is still there as obviously nobody has been over but he was there last Friday as a dog walker took a photo of his bivvy through the fence and messaged the club.
The other members I spoke to all feel the same... like fishing in the closed season.
Happy for him to be there and look after the place if needed. It's all fenced off and only members have codes for the lock so it's not like people can just go over there for a walk. Bit of strange one... we are not sure if he is still there as obviously nobody has been over but he was there last Friday as a dog walker took a photo of his bivvy through the fence and messaged the club.
In reply to Post #22
I personally don't see the problem with bailiffs fishing while doing their job?
Bailiffs could be on 24/48 hour shifts for example so don't see the problem of them fishing, like I said just a perk
Would people still moan if it was middle of the winter, freezing cold, snowing/raining
I personally don't see the problem with bailiffs fishing while doing their job?
Bailiffs could be on 24/48 hour shifts for example so don't see the problem of them fishing, like I said just a perk
Would people still moan if it was middle of the winter, freezing cold, snowing/raining
In reply to Post #24
Personally wouldn't swap my lifestyle for a club or syndicate bailiffs lifestyle. If he wants to fish on his own, crack on.
Personally wouldn't swap my lifestyle for a club or syndicate bailiffs lifestyle. If he wants to fish on his own, crack on.
In reply to Post #25
Ive got two tickets totalling in excess of £1300 and both have been very forthcoming about the situation and have offered to defer payments and will review the situation as time goes by, Ive made the payments and am keen to support them as much as I can do in these trying times for everyone but really appreciated the gesture as they aren't inclined too at all
Ive got two tickets totalling in excess of £1300 and both have been very forthcoming about the situation and have offered to defer payments and will review the situation as time goes by, Ive made the payments and am keen to support them as much as I can do in these trying times for everyone but really appreciated the gesture as they aren't inclined too at all
In reply to Post #24
Agree... but not sure if the fishing part is in his job description... he's not a paid bailiff anyway.
I think the issue they had last week was people had seen him and someone else (maybe the other bailiff) fishing and the point was made about non essential work while in lockdown. i.e. does he really need to be on the lake 24/7 when normally he isn't there all the time. Normally one of them pops over twice a day to check all is OK.
Still at least the lake won't get poached while he is there I guess!
Would people still moan if it was middle of the winter, freezing cold, snowing/raining
No I don't think they would... then again we weren't on lockdown during the winter.
Agree... but not sure if the fishing part is in his job description... he's not a paid bailiff anyway.
I think the issue they had last week was people had seen him and someone else (maybe the other bailiff) fishing and the point was made about non essential work while in lockdown. i.e. does he really need to be on the lake 24/7 when normally he isn't there all the time. Normally one of them pops over twice a day to check all is OK.
Still at least the lake won't get poached while he is there I guess!
Would people still moan if it was middle of the winter, freezing cold, snowing/raining
No I don't think they would... then again we weren't on lockdown during the winter.
In reply to Post #27
That's what I'm saying. If the lockdown had happened during the winter and it was freezing every day with rain/snow would people moan about bailiffs fishing?
This lockdown just happens to be during prime fishing time which is probably the reason people are moaning for rather than the fact he's fishing
I'd just put it down to a perk of the job for him
That's what I'm saying. If the lockdown had happened during the winter and it was freezing every day with rain/snow would people moan about bailiffs fishing?
This lockdown just happens to be during prime fishing time which is probably the reason people are moaning for rather than the fact he's fishing
I'd just put it down to a perk of the job for him
There have been quite a few waters around the country that have suffered from poaching, thefts and criminal damage during the lockdown. Many owners have taken the decision to have bailiffs and themselves acting as a security presence, and fishing whilst there. Do you really want waters left at the mercy of those scumbags that will cause damage and worse?
People never seem to want to be or act as a bailiff until there's a perk.
People never seem to want to be or act as a bailiff until there's a perk.
In reply to Post #29
I'm not disagreeing but is it legal to fish a lake during lockdown though? If so then that's why some lakes are still open?
I'm not disagreeing but is it legal to fish a lake during lockdown though? If so then that's why some lakes are still open?
In reply to Post #30
I'm not sure on the legality of fishing during lockdown. ( putting moral and sensible actions to one side). But I think you'd struggle to convince the police that your travelling was essential travel....
I work in construction as a contracts manager and have been provided with a letter from the government to produce should I be stopped and questioned by the police for reasons on travel, you also need a CSCS card( which you would have already) and some proof on the site you are visiting and why....
I haven't done a site visit for over 2 weeks as most site managers understand it's not sensible nor essential to go to site just to check on how things are progressing as you can do this over the phone / via email.
I'm not sure on the legality of fishing during lockdown. ( putting moral and sensible actions to one side). But I think you'd struggle to convince the police that your travelling was essential travel....
I work in construction as a contracts manager and have been provided with a letter from the government to produce should I be stopped and questioned by the police for reasons on travel, you also need a CSCS card( which you would have already) and some proof on the site you are visiting and why....
I haven't done a site visit for over 2 weeks as most site managers understand it's not sensible nor essential to go to site just to check on how things are progressing as you can do this over the phone / via email.
It's not “legal” to fish during the lockdown
There are only 4 reasons you are allowed to leave your house during this lockdown
Shopping
Medical reasons
Exercise
Work
For 99% of anglers we are not allowed to go fishing as it's not a reason to leave the house. But as a bailiff you could argue that you are doing your job and should be able to prove you are a bailiff and are looking after the waters
There are only 4 reasons you are allowed to leave your house during this lockdown
Shopping
Medical reasons
Exercise
Work
For 99% of anglers we are not allowed to go fishing as it's not a reason to leave the house. But as a bailiff you could argue that you are doing your job and should be able to prove you are a bailiff and are looking after the waters
In reply to Post #31
I visit my lake almost every day to carry out a perimeter fence check (otter fence) and to carry out general maintenance tasks, it counts as one of my places of work. I do carry my cefas paperwork with me at all times.
I haven't once wet a line but if I decide to stay the night to maintain a visible presence I'll have the rods out for sure.
The waters that have bailiffs acting as security and fishing are giving them letters to show the police should they be questioned about their activities. The opinion within the fishery management community seems to believe, in the main, that is considered as acceptable.
I visit my lake almost every day to carry out a perimeter fence check (otter fence) and to carry out general maintenance tasks, it counts as one of my places of work. I do carry my cefas paperwork with me at all times.
I haven't once wet a line but if I decide to stay the night to maintain a visible presence I'll have the rods out for sure.
The waters that have bailiffs acting as security and fishing are giving them letters to show the police should they be questioned about their activities. The opinion within the fishery management community seems to believe, in the main, that is considered as acceptable.
In reply to Post #33
I have to do just the same – check all the Over-flows/in Flows, Check Fences and feed Stock Ponds. I have a letter printed off from the Angling trust, basically saying this essential work must be carried out numerous times a week.
Must admit thou it's bloody annoying looking at a couple of lakes just waking up, and looking utterly stunning, and then just driving away
I have to do just the same – check all the Over-flows/in Flows, Check Fences and feed Stock Ponds. I have a letter printed off from the Angling trust, basically saying this essential work must be carried out numerous times a week.
Must admit thou it's bloody annoying looking at a couple of lakes just waking up, and looking utterly stunning, and then just driving away
In reply to Post #31
Im still struggling to understand what essential about building anything other the hospitals at the moment
Im still struggling to understand what essential about building anything other the hospitals at the moment
In reply to Post #35
Maybe the equipment that goes in them?
Maybe the equipment that goes in them?
In reply to Post #36
Yep that's what my company does... working on 5000 ventilators for next week too!
Yep that's what my company does... working on 5000 ventilators for next week too!
In reply to Post #31
I'm still working. Small site only 3 of us, working in different areas not eating/sitting together. And am legally still aloud to do so
I'm still working. Small site only 3 of us, working in different areas not eating/sitting together. And am legally still aloud to do so
In reply to Post #33
The waters that have bailiffs acting as security and fishing are giving them letters to show the police should they be questioned about their activities. The opinion within the fishery management community seems to believe, in the main, that is considered as acceptable.
As a bailiff on my syndicate Andy, is it just a case of a having a letter from the fishery manager?
I went down today and was wondering all the time driving there what would I say if I got pulled by the police?
The waters that have bailiffs acting as security and fishing are giving them letters to show the police should they be questioned about their activities. The opinion within the fishery management community seems to believe, in the main, that is considered as acceptable.
As a bailiff on my syndicate Andy, is it just a case of a having a letter from the fishery manager?
I went down today and was wondering all the time driving there what would I say if I got pulled by the police?
In reply to Post #39
Hi mate. There is something a bit more official being worked on at the moment, but for now a letter or screen shot seems to be the way to go.
I've also screen shot the letter (available online) as an extra precaution.
The Chelmsford police car headquarters is very close to my place and there are cars about all the time, but they don't ever seem interested in stopping for a chat. More important things to attend to I'd guess.
Hi mate. There is something a bit more official being worked on at the moment, but for now a letter or screen shot seems to be the way to go.
I've also screen shot the letter (available online) as an extra precaution.
The Chelmsford police car headquarters is very close to my place and there are cars about all the time, but they don't ever seem interested in stopping for a chat. More important things to attend to I'd guess.
In reply to Post #40
There is something a bit more official being worked on at the moment
I think I'm privvy to that going by the message I've just received from the fishery manager.
We are discussing this atm. An opportunity for the bailiffs to fish but we are struggling to justifying us being at the lakes fishing without giving the members the same opportunity.
There is something a bit more official being worked on at the moment
I think I'm privvy to that going by the message I've just received from the fishery manager.
We are discussing this atm. An opportunity for the bailiffs to fish but we are struggling to justifying us being at the lakes fishing without giving the members the same opportunity.
In reply to Post #41
On a small syndicate everyone could be a bailiff on a rota basis...
On a small syndicate everyone could be a bailiff on a rota basis...
In reply to Post #42
You must be reading the fishery managers mind
We've decided to keep it no fishing for the time being.
You may remember on the syndicate we fished where the bailiffs used to fish the off season? That never sat well with the members when I was on there.
I've also screen shot the letter (available online) as an extra precaution.
Andy,
Any chance you can pm me a link for that?
You must be reading the fishery managers mind
We've decided to keep it no fishing for the time being.
You may remember on the syndicate we fished where the bailiffs used to fish the off season? That never sat well with the members when I was on there.
I've also screen shot the letter (available online) as an extra precaution.
Andy,
Any chance you can pm me a link for that?
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