In reply to Post #63
No tinfoil hat here Ian........plenty of evidence about Brexit lies, fear mongering and over exaggerating, Covid lies, fear mongering and over exaggerating, climate change, fear mongering and over exaggerating, Ukraine lies, fear mongering and over exaggerating and now we have some more of the same being pushed between China and the US! All of this in the last 6yrs!!!
Chuck in the Woke **** pushed everywhere, everyone needs a voice blah blah blah.......can you not see the conquer and divide being pushed......
Brexit is nothing.......it's good and bad........just like it's supposed to be.......
No tinfoil hat here Ian........plenty of evidence about Brexit lies, fear mongering and over exaggerating, Covid lies, fear mongering and over exaggerating, climate change, fear mongering and over exaggerating, Ukraine lies, fear mongering and over exaggerating and now we have some more of the same being pushed between China and the US! All of this in the last 6yrs!!!
Chuck in the Woke **** pushed everywhere, everyone needs a voice blah blah blah.......can you not see the conquer and divide being pushed......
Brexit is nothing.......it's good and bad........just like it's supposed to be.......
In reply to Post #75
I really dont get what you dont understand. It's too early . It will take a few years. Your "evidence" is temporary at this point. What's the saying,"rome wasn't built in a day"?. You are very bitter, it's very obvious in the way you keep whining on. As for timescales, a few years yet. Up until that point I'll carry on just as I am, life hasn't changed for me , I still live comfortably within my means, have plenty of work, buy what I want when I want to and can get the things I want easily enough. Doesn't feel like the big catastrophy you are claiming it to be that's for sure. If anything the sites I'm working at generally have more Brits and less ee workers now, which isn't a bad thing at all
I really dont get what you dont understand. It's too early . It will take a few years. Your "evidence" is temporary at this point. What's the saying,"rome wasn't built in a day"?. You are very bitter, it's very obvious in the way you keep whining on. As for timescales, a few years yet. Up until that point I'll carry on just as I am, life hasn't changed for me , I still live comfortably within my means, have plenty of work, buy what I want when I want to and can get the things I want easily enough. Doesn't feel like the big catastrophy you are claiming it to be that's for sure. If anything the sites I'm working at generally have more Brits and less ee workers now, which isn't a bad thing at all
"There will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside" - David Davis, Ex-Brexit Minister
"The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want" - Michael Gove, Class A Drug Addict
"Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy – the UK holds most of the cards" - John Redwood
"The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history" - Disgraced Ex-Minister Liam Fox
"We have to establish the ground rules. The first crisis or argument is is going to be over the question of sequencing" - David Davis, who then folded on day 1 of negotiations
"Because we will no longer be members of the single market, we will not be required to pay huge sums into the EU budget" - Theresa May - (we currently owe circa EURO 45 billion)
"Within two years, before the negotiation with the EU is likely to be complete, and therefore before anything material has changed, we can negotiate a free trade area massively larger than the EU ... The new trade agreements will come into force at the point of exit, but they will be fully negotiated" - David Davis
Easy!
"The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want" - Michael Gove, Class A Drug Addict
"Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy – the UK holds most of the cards" - John Redwood
"The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history" - Disgraced Ex-Minister Liam Fox
"We have to establish the ground rules. The first crisis or argument is is going to be over the question of sequencing" - David Davis, who then folded on day 1 of negotiations
"Because we will no longer be members of the single market, we will not be required to pay huge sums into the EU budget" - Theresa May - (we currently owe circa EURO 45 billion)
"Within two years, before the negotiation with the EU is likely to be complete, and therefore before anything material has changed, we can negotiate a free trade area massively larger than the EU ... The new trade agreements will come into force at the point of exit, but they will be fully negotiated" - David Davis
Easy!
In reply to Post #77
Ah.... the truth at last. Having a different point of view which unlike yours is based on evidence rather than faith is whining. OK.
Ah.... the truth at last. Having a different point of view which unlike yours is based on evidence rather than faith is whining. OK.
In reply to Post #77
My Dad's wife 79, was telling me last month that when she goes out shopping on a Saturday there seems to be less foreigner's about. Therefore Brexit is already a success is her view.
My Dad's wife 79, was telling me last month that when she goes out shopping on a Saturday there seems to be less foreigner's about. Therefore Brexit is already a success is her view.
In reply to Post #80
It's neither a success nor a failure yet.
And more money in British pockets being spent in Britain rather than British money going into ee pockets and only a small part being spent in Britain and the rest sent to their homelands is a good thing in my eyes.
It's neither a success nor a failure yet.
And more money in British pockets being spent in Britain rather than British money going into ee pockets and only a small part being spent in Britain and the rest sent to their homelands is a good thing in my eyes.
In reply to Post #79
In reply to Post #81
You may not know that we just passed a milestone for the first time in decades of having more job vacancies than people on the dole.
You do realize that has implications, for tax take and therefore services, government investment, schools hospitals etc for our country.
It's far from the cut and dried British money in British pockets getting spent in British shops on Chinese and German goods you paint.
You may not know that we just passed a milestone for the first time in decades of having more job vacancies than people on the dole.
You do realize that has implications, for tax take and therefore services, government investment, schools hospitals etc for our country.
It's far from the cut and dried British money in British pockets getting spent in British shops on Chinese and German goods you paint.
In reply to Post #83
Dole dossers and prisoners have no excuse not to work, if they don't simply cut ALL monies or privileges ........no ifs or buts......we don't need EU workers doing non skilled work in the UK......
We even have persecuted Ukrainians to help......maybe Russians too......
Dole dossers and prisoners have no excuse not to work, if they don't simply cut ALL monies or privileges ........no ifs or buts......we don't need EU workers doing non skilled work in the UK......
We even have persecuted Ukrainians to help......maybe Russians too......
In reply to Post #83
There's also the very kind subsidy that EDF customers are providing for french electricity bills....
There's also the very kind subsidy that EDF customers are providing for french electricity bills....
In reply to Post #83
In reply to Post #86
Your first sentence is definitely a factor Noj. There's some large profitable companies out there that are offering 16 hours a week jobs. To deliberately keep hours/pay low so benefits can still be paid.
Everyone knows we need immigration,like it or lump it.
The animosity and demonization has to stop it's un British and wrong, the Brexit immigration war is over, stand down.
The idea we can bring in the best and brightest and promote them over people already living here using a point system is contentious. Someone's got to clean the bogs, caravans, train station, airports, pick the spuds and work on farms etc. Who have the government in mind? Your young kids?
Like you say about education, I'd rather people living here fill the more profitable technically/academically demanding jobs and if someone from Botswana wants to get off their arse and come and fill the vacancies and contribute here crack on.
Your first sentence is definitely a factor Noj. There's some large profitable companies out there that are offering 16 hours a week jobs. To deliberately keep hours/pay low so benefits can still be paid.
Everyone knows we need immigration,like it or lump it.
The animosity and demonization has to stop it's un British and wrong, the Brexit immigration war is over, stand down.
The idea we can bring in the best and brightest and promote them over people already living here using a point system is contentious. Someone's got to clean the bogs, caravans, train station, airports, pick the spuds and work on farms etc. Who have the government in mind? Your young kids?
Like you say about education, I'd rather people living here fill the more profitable technically/academically demanding jobs and if someone from Botswana wants to get off their arse and come and fill the vacancies and contribute here crack on.
In reply to Post #87
Who have the government in mind? Your young kids?
I bet they have you know.
Low paid, rubbish jobs keep the little people under continual pressure, and therefore under control; in short, exactly where the rich elite tax dodging tossers who are destroying the country, want them to be.
Impoverished forever, struggling and malleable for when they need to use propaganda to make their own agendas ever more successful.
Who have the government in mind? Your young kids?
I bet they have you know.
Low paid, rubbish jobs keep the little people under continual pressure, and therefore under control; in short, exactly where the rich elite tax dodging tossers who are destroying the country, want them to be.
Impoverished forever, struggling and malleable for when they need to use propaganda to make their own agendas ever more successful.
In reply to Post #87
In reply to Post #88
Take a quick look at Truss' education reforms...
Reinforcement of the elitist bs that we've spent years trying to get rid of. Keeping the rich in their place and the rest of us in ours.
She. Is. A. Disgrace....
Take a quick look at Truss' education reforms...
Reinforcement of the elitist bs that we've spent years trying to get rid of. Keeping the rich in their place and the rest of us in ours.
She. Is. A. Disgrace....