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New Bait Recommendations (50 posts / 11,502 views)
jamie1989 jamie1989
Posts: 470
#1 21 Aug 2022 11:14
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After some bait, fed up of rolling my own. Not bothered about price, being 50p cheaper a kg than another company etc. Just want a quality bait with a good reliable range of pop ups and hookbaits. 👍
Vanhorne
Posts: 319
#2 21 Aug 2022 11:29
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In reply to Post #1
How about Rollin baits ?
Andydave
Posts: 840
#5 21 Aug 2022 14:07
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In reply to Post #1
Shellfish B5??
jamie1989 jamie1989
Posts: 470
#6 21 Aug 2022 16:39
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In reply to Post #3
RG baits. Never really looked at there stuff, just been looking, looks good. Any one used it and recommended them?
stusid stusid
Posts: 741
#7 21 Aug 2022 17:48
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Bait asylum
Well worth it in my opinion fantastic Bait
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
Posts: 3,289
#8 21 Aug 2022 18:00
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In reply to Post #6
I've mainly only used the vita lac and formula crab. Both are very good baits and caught well on them. The arctic crab ****ing stinks 🤣 good group of lads to
Beyonce
Posts: 1,710
#9 21 Aug 2022 19:37
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In reply to Post #3
The RG baits Prime looks interesting, always liked a meaty liver bait
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
Posts: 5,282
#10 21 Aug 2022 20:47
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In reply to Post #1
I think Pete Regan is your neck of the woods. His bait does well wherever it's used.
jamie1989 jamie1989
Posts: 470
#11 21 Aug 2022 22:06
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In reply to Post #10
How do you get hold of Peter?
Vanhorne
Posts: 319
#12 21 Aug 2022 23:39
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In reply to Post #11
Tossbook is one option.
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
Posts: 5,282
#13 22 Aug 2022 09:25
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In reply to Post #11
You say his name three times in a mirror and he appears I believe.

Failing that try messaging one of the Korda lads and explain you are looking to get on his bait, Damo is mates with him. Either that try and find someone on Welly as his bait goes in there a lot. He's a member of two clubs that I'm in but I've not seen him for ages. If I do bump into him I will get a number for you.

He's also on Facebook.
MrNuvawun MrNuvawun
Posts: 2,429
#14 22 Aug 2022 21:09
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In reply to Post #8
Another vote for RG Baits, Formula + Arctic Crab. Proper stinky fishmeal with monster crab basically.
Vita-Lac smells like those NICE biscuits to me, defo a hint of coconut in there.

Trent baits SAS Squid is a nice bait too, reminds me of the original Solar Club mix.
JohnSheld JohnSheld
Posts: 22
#16 23 Aug 2022 11:04
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Proper Carp Baits have a good range and the quality of the freezer baits is really good quality. I use their Black Seal and it's totally different to anything I've used before.

If you order 10kg it works out at £8.75 per kilo, and over 20kg its £7.35 per kilo, which is pretty good. They used to do free postage over £100 too, but don't know if that's the case anymore.
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
Posts: 1,423
#17 23 Aug 2022 11:07
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Do they make spam extract too? You first two posts extolling the virtues of a bait company. Go away.
Carpmanchris Carpmanchris
Posts: 786
#18 23 Aug 2022 11:59
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In reply to Post #1
You could do far worse than choose Active Bait Solutions. With Geoff Bowers in control and prices low and quality high, they have been my #1 choice for freshly rolled bait for well over a decade.
Canalcarper71 Canalcarper71
Posts: 1,389
#19 23 Aug 2022 13:41
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Dna baits I'm a year or so in and happy with them on bug but going back on the slk as o think it's a very good bait to no honest
JohnSheld JohnSheld
Posts: 22
#20 23 Aug 2022 15:53
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In reply to Post #17
I have been on this forum a week, having looked at many feeds over the last year or two, and found them useful, so wanted to offer something back. I have used Mainline, CC Moore, Sticky, and many other baits but like the original question (asking for bait recommendations), and when I did my research, tested some baits and spoke to friends and feel have found something I like and don't see changing from I will happy put their name forward for others to look at, because that is their decision.

I appreciate I have made two comments and they are both about bait, and yes I use theirs, but the majority of feeds I look at I don't have anything constructive to add, let alone bi+ch about or sl@g off. But when I can be useful or make a useful comment to a feed question asked, that feel I have a valid opinion on, I will answer.

I don't see you launching into the multiple RG bait recommendations or the others. It is only an opinion from experience, and this is a forum for sharing knowledge and experience, if I'm not mistaken.
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
Posts: 5,282
#21 23 Aug 2022 18:05
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Good lads at proper as well, which always helps. Mr Colloff is always good company.
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
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#22 23 Aug 2022 19:12
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I wouldn't comment on RG as I've never even seen their bait. I make my own and have done for 35 odd years. My comment related to your very first two posts reading little more than adverts... It was no comment about the actual bait itself, as again I've never seen it.
You want a rec? Of all the baits that I've seen in recent years, in my view, the best (and closest to a home made fish based mix) is Hot Shrimp by Aqua. Soft, pungent and actually tastes of fish products.
I recently came across a friend using shelf like Sticky Krill and struggling. The bait was like concrete, and if it had more than 20% fishmeal/krill I'd be amazed. Really bland taste.
JohnSheld JohnSheld
Posts: 22
#23 23 Aug 2022 19:43
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In reply to Post #22
If my comments were out of context I'd expect them to come across as adverts. I accept my first two were about the bait I like, which the feed was asking.

I will have a look at your recommendation, thanks, as this os the reason I'm on here is for info and genuine opinions on products, cust service, etc.. not to be accused.

I agree with you re the sticky krill shelf life and I threw most of a bag out I couldn't bring myself to use it.
Mozzi Mozzi
Posts: 1,900
#25 23 Aug 2022 19:53
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I'm not sure if they've improved at all from the start but two famous anglers who've had zero to do with bait before starting up a company will always get skeptics.

I was confused by their advert for adding water soluble oils to baits as well 😂

If it catches fish it catches fish, although a friend said they sold off their machinery last year? I can't verify that personally.



I refuse to believe there is anything being rolled in this country that won't catch fish as semo soya and maize baits catch plenty. Famous companies get recommended all the time on here who are known to make baits Mosty of maize and bread crumb.

That in of itself means poor baits get recommended frequently. The downside to this is the property well formulated baits made by people with knowledge and experience are designed not only to promote growth health and recovery in fish but also breaking down / being a nutritive option for other water life meaning it's not going rancid on the bottom too.

You've recommended the same company and quoted prices and sounded exactly like a salesman in your first two posts so you can see where some would assume it's a spam account. Rightly or wrongly. It does happen on here so some may be pre conditioned to assume. Time will tel etc. Welcome.
Frenzy Frenzy
Posts: 11,403
#26 23 Aug 2022 20:37
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always a difficult one when asking bait recommendations, as people choose their bait for many reasons, plus you will get that many different opinions, it can fry ones head further.

i found a company 15 odd years ago and i still use their baits today. One reason, i trust them and their products, actually two, ive caught rather a lot of fish on their baits, so im happy
Mozzi Mozzi
Posts: 1,900
#27 23 Aug 2022 20:55
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sometimes a change can be a bit of fun though.

I thought you said you'd stopped angling? or am I confusing you with someone else again ( wouldn't be the first time to be fair lol )
carpe_diem carpe_diem
Posts: 1,982
#28 23 Aug 2022 21:12
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Long term food bait or something more attractive to catch them with from the off ?
CarpCodger71 CarpCodger71
Posts: 2,762
#30 24 Aug 2022 07:16
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Jamie I see your in Norfolk and big fish baits are local to you .
Lee Moore is the owner and a really nice guy .
Might be worth contacting him and see what he can do for you .

I have no affiliation with the company just heard lots of good things about Lee and his baits.
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
Posts: 1,423
#32 24 Aug 2022 09:17
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In reply to Post #25
I've just looked at the Proper Carp website based on your comment Mozzi.
I quote..... 'A water soluble fish oil high in amino acids".
Oh dear.

Frenzy Frenzy
Posts: 11,403
#33 24 Aug 2022 09:19
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i don't fish anywhere as much as i used too, i'm far too busy with my two business and the spare time i have, i much prefer to spend with my Son. When i do, i don't feel the need to say anything these days.

Despite how often one fishes is irrelevant really, i've always used and always will use the firm i have for many years. i dont use it when fly fishing
Notts485
Posts: 535
#34 24 Aug 2022 11:04
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In reply to Post #1
You will get loads of suggestions and most will be good. Not many bad baits made now they would go bust. Work out how much you use and intend to use as this can effect the cost. I get through around sixty kilos a year plus pellets. I use DNA mix Slk and S7. If I was fishing day ticket waters I would probably swop for the Cell or stickies Krill. Dont rule out Trent Baits especially their shellfish liver.
Mozzi Mozzi
Posts: 1,900
#35 24 Aug 2022 13:32
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👀
Jimmers532
Posts: 889
#37 24 Aug 2022 22:33
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Do you use shelflife or frozen mate ?
The_Saint The_Saint
Posts: 2,072
#38 25 Aug 2022 06:45
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In reply to Post #14
Doing really well on the Trent Baits SAS this year, smells reminiscent to the original malarkey to me
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
Posts: 1,423
#39 25 Aug 2022 08:29
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So the Sticky Krill is that good, you have to use a different hookbait????
Have you actually used the krill hookbaits over the feed?
The shelf life's I saw were garbage, sorry. Rock hard, bland taste, full of filler. If those are 'better' than what you've used before, I dread to think what they were like. Obviously if you're using the freezer ones, ignore the last comment, as I haven't seen those so cannot comment as they might be better. I'll defer here to Mozzi who seems to know a bit about Sticky.
Mozzi Mozzi
Posts: 1,900
#41 25 Aug 2022 15:39
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Decent amount of LT94 in both the shelf life and the freeze bait.

All I can think of is maybe the ones you saw the bag had a small hole that let em dry out?


At the volume sticky buy in, which is more than anyone else in the country even dynamite who have a massive coarse division, it doesn't make sense to save a few pence per kilo at the expense of the performance of the bait.

My personal opinion is the krill isn't the finest fishmeal bait available but it's a decent one and it is readily available, reasonably priced with many accessories and catches stacks of fish.

Also being a fairly neutral bait it's quite easy to give its own label such as darkening down with molasses and calanus ( ridiculously good on tench free venues )


One of the few baits I'd consider using if I didn't sell / make my own.

But there is every chance some bad bait was seen by you, I don't dispute what you say as wasn't there but it is surprising


Richpp1989 Richpp1989
Posts: 2,078
#42 25 Aug 2022 16:05
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Sticky Hookbaits are all very poor in my opinion mate like ALOT of other companies, I have complete faith in Specialized Hookbaits In particular the GPB1 and the GPB2 that's why I use others and the GPB2 are brilliant but don't do loose feed so bad to pick a fishmeal to go along with it

I use the freezer version I'm not allowed to use shelf life on the lakes I fish lol

Ones I use before was DNA (s7/slk) CC Moore (tuna/XXX) and some mainline boilies sticky krill gave me much better results but I'll be honest I don't use a lot of it and just fish for a bite at a time
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
Posts: 3,289
#43 25 Aug 2022 16:18
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In reply to Post #42
Sticky wafters are dog **** for buoyancy
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
Posts: 1,423
#44 25 Aug 2022 17:18
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In reply to Post #41
Fair enough although they were very bland and I'm not sure there was much krill in it (not Qrill anyway) unless it's the cheaper carapace coarse pink stuff that a lot of places now seem to be selling.
If you're using the freezer stuff Rich, then obviously my comments aren't relevant as I've not seen them. And yes, I've used GBP before, decent hookbaits... I like the buoyancy and the concept of the crushed bits that you can shape. Unfortunately my original 2 pots, then the replacements, went mouldy after a while, but overall I liked them.
Richpp1989 Richpp1989
Posts: 2,078
#45 25 Aug 2022 17:54
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Wow really? Best check mine then I haven't had any problems with mould (fingers crossed) what do you use now mate?

Yeah I must admit I've seen the shelf life's and I wouldn't say they was as nice as the freezer baits
Richpp1989 Richpp1989
Posts: 2,078
#46 25 Aug 2022 17:56
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In reply to Post #43
Tbh I've found a lot of companies Hookbaits to go along the boilie line ain't up to much
Mozzi Mozzi
Posts: 1,900
#47 25 Aug 2022 18:10
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In reply to Post #44
Again most the smaller companies buy their QRILL material off sticky
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
Posts: 1,423
#48 25 Aug 2022 18:16
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In reply to Post #45
This was when Mark first released them Rich, but I know he altered things and I think it was only the first couple of batches that had issues so I'm sure they are all great now. A very good product.
In terms of what I use.. I make my own, generally the same bait as my freebies, just hardened with Whey Gel and albumin. I also store them in powder/salts/spices/sugars etc as then (Cork ball pop ups), they last for ever.
I also sometimes use Marks gelatin trick for coatings....don't often get it 100% right, but when I do, the gel will stay on for a good 24 hours, works very well with beef liver powder and fenugreek oleo resin.
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
Posts: 1,423
#49 25 Aug 2022 18:17
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In reply to Post #47
So where does the coarse pink stuff come from?That is not Qrill.
Richpp1989 Richpp1989
Posts: 2,078
#50 25 Aug 2022 18:58
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In reply to Post #48
Interesting thanks for taking the time to reply to me so in depth mate, I appreciated that 👍

Sounds like u got it down to a tea then, I have never made my own I'll be honest I don't even no where I would start with actually making some lol I need to leave that side of it to the experts or people who no what they are doing like you I'd mess that right up lol
Mozzi Mozzi
Posts: 1,900
#51 25 Aug 2022 20:04
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In reply to Post #49
Still is still quite coarse.

Every chance it's been put it as a leakage aid, shrimp shell meal is a valid ingredient in its own right if you dig a bit deeper. I wouldn't lie about them using QRILL I have zero stock in them
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
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#52 25 Aug 2022 20:31
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OK, let me elaborate.
Qrill is orange, oily, often find bits of whole krill in it, antennae, appendages etc. Lovely pungent smell, and tastes of, surprisingly, crustaceans!
The pink stuff out there (and I've had some both from BAF and AA) is very different. It's sold as krill, and not shrimp meal. It's similar to the old pink shrimp(shell) meal but not identical. It is coarse, doesn't contain the whole krill etc etc, is dry and appears simply to be the carapace. I'm guessing it's a waste product from the production of pharma grade krill extract and oil, maybe from Aker-Biomarine? It is a very different 'meal' than the orange Qrill.
Mozzi Mozzi
Posts: 1,900
#53 25 Aug 2022 20:53
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In reply to Post #52
I can personally attest to the stuff they bring in as a nice premium krill new.

Although all krill meal is a by product and none has 100oil retention
Bud-
Posts: 76
#54 30 Aug 2022 18:54
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In reply to Post #52
I believe the pink 'Krill' is supplied by Sopropeche.

I've recently purchased 'Krill' from BAF, AA and Bacarel and not one of them is anything like Qrill of old. The BAF one in particular was dreadfull and floated a bait at 4- 5% inculsion.

Bacarel's Krill seemed of a decent quailty to my untrained eye, in comparsion of the three products.

NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
Posts: 1,423
#55 30 Aug 2022 19:17
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In reply to Post #54
Pretty much the same as I found, though the last batch I got from Bacarel a few weeks ago was the proper orange Qrill.
Thanks for finding the supplier of the pink stuff mate, much appreciated!
Bud-
Posts: 76
#56 30 Aug 2022 19:37
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In reply to Post #55
Interesting to know Bacarel's is Qrill, I must have just missed out on the good stuff lol.
Mozzi Mozzi
Posts: 1,900
#57 31 Aug 2022 15:33
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In reply to Post #54
It says it on the sack
Bud-
Posts: 76
#58 2 Sep 2022 21:42
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