Do any of the companies still sell desicated liver powder? Pork or chicken?
I used to make a fishmeal bait with 25g of desicated liver however it seem that everyone is selling hydrosylate and tbh I don't want highly soluable.
I vaguely recall buying some protolized liver powder 13-14 years ago and I didn't think it was worth the extra cost.
I used to make a fishmeal bait with 25g of desicated liver however it seem that everyone is selling hydrosylate and tbh I don't want highly soluable.
I vaguely recall buying some protolized liver powder 13-14 years ago and I didn't think it was worth the extra cost.
In reply to Post #1
About 20 or so years ago I used to get dessicated liver from Quality Baits and it was a brilliant ingredient. It seems now though that it's been replaced with the protolised liver which you've mentioned. So, if you want to include liver in your bait without using a hydro, here are a few options.
1. Fresh liver from the supermarket. You can dessicate raw liver ( with a food dessicator ) and then grind to a powder .Or you can cook it, by either microwaving or boiling. Once cooked, dry in the oven on the lowest setting and then grind.
2. Using liquidised fresh liver. This is my favourite method which I use when reconstituting egg powder. You can get around half a kilo of liquidised liver into 5 KG of dough.
3. Harringtons Liver Dog Training Treats. OK, so not pure liver but a great ingredient nevertheless. Fortified with vitamins, minerals and seaweed. These have a moisture content of around 18 % , so it is best to dry them out before grinding. I dry them on baking trays, either on a heater or in the oven on a low setting. Be warned though, your house will stink, they really are pungent.
Hope that helps ðŸ‘
About 20 or so years ago I used to get dessicated liver from Quality Baits and it was a brilliant ingredient. It seems now though that it's been replaced with the protolised liver which you've mentioned. So, if you want to include liver in your bait without using a hydro, here are a few options.
1. Fresh liver from the supermarket. You can dessicate raw liver ( with a food dessicator ) and then grind to a powder .Or you can cook it, by either microwaving or boiling. Once cooked, dry in the oven on the lowest setting and then grind.
2. Using liquidised fresh liver. This is my favourite method which I use when reconstituting egg powder. You can get around half a kilo of liquidised liver into 5 KG of dough.
3. Harringtons Liver Dog Training Treats. OK, so not pure liver but a great ingredient nevertheless. Fortified with vitamins, minerals and seaweed. These have a moisture content of around 18 % , so it is best to dry them out before grinding. I dry them on baking trays, either on a heater or in the oven on a low setting. Be warned though, your house will stink, they really are pungent.
Hope that helps ðŸ‘
In reply to Post #1
Have a look at Marcus Watt's MIRAGE BAITS website, currently out of stock, but a product he makes himself, produced fresh regularly. Hence it sells out often! Here's the description for you.
100% PURE BEEF LIVER POWDER
100grams £6.50
Produced inhouse from pure fresh beef livers. Lt dried & powdered
100 gr pots.
Brilliant powdered additive, soluble, high in protien and an incredible nutritional profile - all liver products are not the same - chicken liver isnt worth bothering with, lamb and pig are an ok 2nd best but ox liver is the king of them all.
use in boilies at any level from 5-10gr / 500gr base mix, use as a coating dust on hookbaits, in stick mixes or sprinkled into particle mixes for a massive boost
** EDIT ** AA Baits also worth a look - they have a Premium Beef Liver powder (Food Grade)
Have a look at Marcus Watt's MIRAGE BAITS website, currently out of stock, but a product he makes himself, produced fresh regularly. Hence it sells out often! Here's the description for you.
100% PURE BEEF LIVER POWDER
100grams £6.50
Produced inhouse from pure fresh beef livers. Lt dried & powdered
100 gr pots.
Brilliant powdered additive, soluble, high in protien and an incredible nutritional profile - all liver products are not the same - chicken liver isnt worth bothering with, lamb and pig are an ok 2nd best but ox liver is the king of them all.
use in boilies at any level from 5-10gr / 500gr base mix, use as a coating dust on hookbaits, in stick mixes or sprinkled into particle mixes for a massive boost
** EDIT ** AA Baits also worth a look - they have a Premium Beef Liver powder (Food Grade)
In reply to Post #3
I'll 2nd that - I use his powder in stick/bag mixes and the liquid on everything!
I'll 2nd that - I use his powder in stick/bag mixes and the liquid on everything!
In reply to Post #2
About 20 or so years ago I used to get dessicated liver from Quality Baits and it was a brilliant ingredient. It seems now though that it's been replaced with the protolised liver which you've mentioned.
yes, that was where I bought it from, 13-14 years ago now. bought some protolysed with it on my last order ( binned the last of it in the shed clearout - solidified lump).
Would go sticky if the bag was opened on a damp day.
When my old Springer went off her food a sprinkle of desicated would get her eating again, turned her nose up at a pinch of the proto.
Can't be doing with home dried or liquidized, takes me back to the 80s
Ahhhh..Used to buy kilo bags of dried liver treats- £16-18 a kilo
In reply to Post #3
£65 quid a kilo
doubtful if QB powder was £6.50 a kilo.
About 20 or so years ago I used to get dessicated liver from Quality Baits and it was a brilliant ingredient. It seems now though that it's been replaced with the protolised liver which you've mentioned.
yes, that was where I bought it from, 13-14 years ago now. bought some protolysed with it on my last order ( binned the last of it in the shed clearout - solidified lump).
Would go sticky if the bag was opened on a damp day.
When my old Springer went off her food a sprinkle of desicated would get her eating again, turned her nose up at a pinch of the proto.
Can't be doing with home dried or liquidized, takes me back to the 80s
Ahhhh..Used to buy kilo bags of dried liver treats- £16-18 a kilo
In reply to Post #3
£65 quid a kilo
doubtful if QB powder was £6.50 a kilo.
In reply to Post #5
Like Tyto says..... You can have a crack at doing your own too if you are up for a mess around.
I used to do this for the dog treats, more recently got inspired by the Chronicles podcast with Marcus Watts.
Not sure what it works out at once you've dried it all out (morrisons have beef liver fresh at £3.50/kg).... it wont' be QB baits 2006 £6.50 a kilo once its been desiccated though!
Like Tyto says..... You can have a crack at doing your own too if you are up for a mess around.
I used to do this for the dog treats, more recently got inspired by the Chronicles podcast with Marcus Watts.
Not sure what it works out at once you've dried it all out (morrisons have beef liver fresh at £3.50/kg).... it wont' be QB baits 2006 £6.50 a kilo once its been desiccated though!
In reply to Post #6
That dessicator looks useful. What model is it please ?
Silverfish, I know you requested pork or chicken liver but I think that all the readily available ones are hydrolysed which isn't what you're after. If beef liver is acceptable, take a look at AA Baits premium beef liver powder. On the spec sheet it states that it's made from spray dried cooked beef livers. No mention of hydrolysis.There will be some solubilty due to dried blood, salts etc but nowhere hear as much as a hydrolysed product. It's only £ 22.49 a kilo too 😄. If you don't want your kitchen looking like a murder scene it's definitely worth a shout.
That dessicator looks useful. What model is it please ?
Silverfish, I know you requested pork or chicken liver but I think that all the readily available ones are hydrolysed which isn't what you're after. If beef liver is acceptable, take a look at AA Baits premium beef liver powder. On the spec sheet it states that it's made from spray dried cooked beef livers. No mention of hydrolysis.There will be some solubilty due to dried blood, salts etc but nowhere hear as much as a hydrolysed product. It's only £ 22.49 a kilo too 😄. If you don't want your kitchen looking like a murder scene it's definitely worth a shout.
In reply to Post #7
The beef liver that AA baits sell is the same, or very, very similar to the QBs prototype product.
The beef liver that AA baits sell is the same, or very, very similar to the QBs prototype product.
In reply to Post #7
cheers but it's another spray dried slurry, says highly attractive/soluable in the description.
Hydrolysis is water separation/treatment, not enzyme.
Looks like I'll be ordering a kilo of beef liver off Amazon and murdering the liquidizer
cheers but it's another spray dried slurry, says highly attractive/soluable in the description.
Hydrolysis is water separation/treatment, not enzyme.
Looks like I'll be ordering a kilo of beef liver off Amazon and murdering the liquidizer
In reply to Post #9
I have seen beef liver powder on Amazon but it is very expensive.
I have seen beef liver powder on Amazon but it is very expensive.
In reply to Post #7
I believe its made by HOMCOM.
Nothing special, the cheapest one I could find on either ebay or amazon.
Its also decent for drying out hookbaits on the lowest setting this time of year and I also clean it up a bit for chillis from the greenhouse etc.
I believe its made by HOMCOM.
Nothing special, the cheapest one I could find on either ebay or amazon.
Its also decent for drying out hookbaits on the lowest setting this time of year and I also clean it up a bit for chillis from the greenhouse etc.
Why not just liquidise raw liver and then add to the eggs?
I have done in the past, very successful, but a bit stringy with the sinews and veins!
Kitchen was a proper crime scene!!!
Also done sprats, small herring, mackerel offal, etc.
I have done in the past, very successful, but a bit stringy with the sinews and veins!
Kitchen was a proper crime scene!!!
Also done sprats, small herring, mackerel offal, etc.
In reply to Post #12
Raw liver is about 75% water, you're diluting all the good stuff.
Raw liver is about 75% water, you're diluting all the good stuff.
In reply to Post #10
Dried liver for dogs
Dried liver for dogs
In reply to Post #11
Thanks Andy ðŸ‘. If it does the job, that's all that matters. It will be an improvement on my home brew heat mat and fan combo haha.
Thanks Andy ðŸ‘. If it does the job, that's all that matters. It will be an improvement on my home brew heat mat and fan combo haha.