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Lamlac / casein (8 posts / 2,194 views)
dickweed dickweed
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Post #1 5 Sep 2023 08:18
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Hi Folks,

Been on a mix recommend by Bristol.

2 fishmeal.
1 clo
1 semo
1 lamlac.

Would replacing the lamlac be worth doing?

Obviously the cost would go up.

Been using the above with a couple of spices only. No hydros.

It's worked very well on my current water so don't want to make changes for the sake of it but open to suggestions if the bait in theory could be improved especially going towards the cooler months. All other anglers are in the 6 to 7 quid a kilo club so unlikely there baits contain any posh milks.

Thanks.
fzrip
Posts: 205
Post #2 5 Sep 2023 16:23
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In reply to Post #1
I don't think so, not unless you need a firmer longer lasting bait.
scaley&dark
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Post #3 5 Sep 2023 23:18
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In reply to Post #1
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Simple and effective.

You mention no Hydros, but are you adding any salmon oil to aid rolling ?
If you are, maybe just lower any additional fish oil content by 50%, and use less freebies in the winter, When it get proper cold, first few frosts, etc. and monitor results.

Bait_buff Bait_buff
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Post #4 6 Sep 2023 20:10
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In reply to Post #1
No, lamlac would have higher leakage than casien, casien would make the bait firmer. Hydro's or hemp oil would be a good addition for the colder months but salmon oil would be a good additive until it gets cold. I'm surprised that there isn't some soya flour in there with the semo.
Ddw
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Post #5 8 Sep 2023 17:21
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Replace the lamlac with skimmed milk powder if you want to improve cold water leakage potential. It's cheap and readily available in tescos etc.
Bait_buff Bait_buff
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Post #6 8 Sep 2023 19:10
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In reply to Post #5
"Replace the lamlac with skimmed milk powder if you want to improve cold water leakage potential. It's cheap and readily available in tescos etc."

I would agree with this although I'm not sure if skim milk powder would be cheaper if you are using it in bulk as lamlac is 67 quid for 20kg. lamlac has a fat content of 24% so may be better in winter, you will also have a higher protein content (34% vs 24%) if you replace lamlac with skim milk powder. I'm not sure how much this would really effect the leakage of the bait though to be honest.
Ynnek
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Post #7 9 Sep 2023 06:42
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In reply to Post #6
Skimmed milk powder should have a higher protein content of nearly 35% and 0% fat content.
The fat content makes that regular milk powder isn't so soluble in cold water while skimmed milk powder is.

The instant milk powder are treated with soy- lecethin to aid solubility. This makes is better soluble than regular milk powder but it can't beat skimmed milk powder.


Sheepish
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Post #8 11 Sep 2023 23:54
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As has been said, Lamblac is high in fat and the sort that solidifies in cooler temperatures. Skimmed milk powder is higher in protein and virtually fat free, but has gone up in price quite substantially recently. The cost effective route, whilst retaining solubility is BAF's Whey Protien Powders at £35 for 10kg, they're 75% protein and refined milk proteins if that's what you're looking for.
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