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Scopex No 1 (50 posts / 9,457 views)
alapeche alapeche
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Post #1 3 Aug 2022 10:00
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Does anyone know if Nash Scopex No 1 is the same as the original.

Thanks.
Beyonce
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Post #2 3 Aug 2022 10:10
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Gary Bayes probably does, or his young apprentice Max Hendry.
scaley&dark
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Post #3 3 Aug 2022 11:55
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In reply to Post #2
The only other living person might be John Baker, I believe he was involved in Rod Hutchinson's early sourcing and experiments with the ScopeX.

darkoL darkoL
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Post #4 3 Aug 2022 12:07
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In reply to Post #1
Nothing is the same.
finbob finbob
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Post #5 3 Aug 2022 14:35
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In reply to Post #4
Jason Rider may also know?
scozza
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Post #6 3 Aug 2022 18:34
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In reply to Post #3
I believe JB Toppex is the one, worth a call
midlandman midlandman
Posts: 3,480
Post #7 3 Aug 2022 20:24
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In reply to Post #6
I bought some after hearing his podcast. It smells similar, but not the same as the original imo.
alapeche alapeche
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Post #8 4 Aug 2022 09:14
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In reply to Post #7
Think I might have an unused bottle of Toppex in the garage, I must go and have a look and a good sniff !
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
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Post #9 4 Aug 2022 13:11
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In reply to Post #6
Toppex is nothing like the original Scopex. It's very strong.
Calabro
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Post #10 4 Aug 2022 23:14
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In reply to Post #1
Not a clue. Fairly certain its around 5 times the price
Ynnek
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Post #11 5 Aug 2022 02:42
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In reply to Post #9
JB also mentioned in one of his podcasts that topper isn't the original scopex. He promised RH never to sell the original recipe
midlandman midlandman
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Post #12 5 Aug 2022 21:25
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In reply to Post #11
No, I'm pretty sure he said Toppex was the original Scopex, but he had not made people aware of it whilst Rod was alive.....either way, it doesn't smell exactly the same to me.
Baitman Baitman
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Post #13 5 Aug 2022 23:38
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In reply to Post #1
Wasn't there an ingredient that was banned so they had to alter the formula.
Diacetyl...
Vanhorne
Posts: 319
Post #14 6 Aug 2022 06:47
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In reply to Post #13
Correct, it caused a condition known as 'popcorn lung'.

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2012/08/03/Butter-flavouring-linked-to-key-Alzheimer-s-process

This is available:

https://www.cake-stuff.com/item/6497/BeauBaking/CREAMY-BUTTER-icing-food-flavouring-40ml.html

How much would this cost with a carp label?
Ynnek
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Post #15 6 Aug 2022 07:54
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In reply to Post #12
This is what he said word by word:
Some of these early flavours came from a wonderful old-fashioned company called Perlarom, who were based in Croydon. Interestingly, the company — sadly no longer in business — also helped me develop a flavour called Scopex, for Rod Hutchinson. I promised Rod that I would never sell the recipe commercially during his lifetime, and although it has been copied by many different bait companies throughout Europe, I can guarantee that none are the same as my original version. My conscience is clear, and I now make my own version. Out of respect for Rod,
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