I've had a search using the forum search but not much came up on chilli vs garlic/fermentation/salt.
Listening to the latest Lee Jackson podcast he rates the chilli. I rate Jacko! Must be something you can over do though. How much dry chilli flake would people be happy to put in a kilo of cooked hemp assuming you do it that way round?
Listening to the latest Lee Jackson podcast he rates the chilli. I rate Jacko! Must be something you can over do though. How much dry chilli flake would people be happy to put in a kilo of cooked hemp assuming you do it that way round?
In reply to Post #1
It depending on the strength of the chilli to be fair.
3-10% by weight to the dry hemp. Obviously generally more than what's used with boilies but you're gonna end up with 1.7kg hemp from a kilo dry and also dilute it with cooking and the water.
It's not really something you can over do because the hemp is either split and it will dilute when it enters tge lake, or not all split and it'll wash off, it's more what gets infused into the seed than the amount of red bits afterwards.
And yes it's a very good additive but lake specific, makes a huge difference in some, absolutely none in others
It depending on the strength of the chilli to be fair.
3-10% by weight to the dry hemp. Obviously generally more than what's used with boilies but you're gonna end up with 1.7kg hemp from a kilo dry and also dilute it with cooking and the water.
It's not really something you can over do because the hemp is either split and it will dilute when it enters tge lake, or not all split and it'll wash off, it's more what gets infused into the seed than the amount of red bits afterwards.
And yes it's a very good additive but lake specific, makes a huge difference in some, absolutely none in others
In reply to Post #2
Thanks Mozzi, I was going to add the chilli after the boil to keep the potency and save my eye balls!
Thanks Mozzi, I was going to add the chilli after the boil to keep the potency and save my eye balls!
In reply to Post #3
The heat helps to draw the oils out the flakes and infuse the seeds
The heat helps to draw the oils out the flakes and infuse the seeds
In reply to Post #1
I have never found adding chilli to hemp make it any better.
It may be that the lakes I used hemp on, it is not 'overfished', so adding chilli did not improve results. This may back up Mozzis comment that it works on some lakes not on others, and the reason why.
I have however added Verselle Laga Garlic Oil (pigeon birdfood suppliers)at 5ml per kilo of hemp, and that has improved it when added at the soak, although it stinks when you boil it up.
I have never found adding chilli to hemp make it any better.
It may be that the lakes I used hemp on, it is not 'overfished', so adding chilli did not improve results. This may back up Mozzis comment that it works on some lakes not on others, and the reason why.
I have however added Verselle Laga Garlic Oil (pigeon birdfood suppliers)at 5ml per kilo of hemp, and that has improved it when added at the soak, although it stinks when you boil it up.
In reply to Post #5
5 ml garlic essential oil into 250ml hemp oil, add as you see fit. Cold water friendly oils to boot.
5 ml garlic essential oil into 250ml hemp oil, add as you see fit. Cold water friendly oils to boot.
In reply to Post #5
same here, chilli has never made a difference when i've used it alongside just pure boiled hemp.
re Garlic, long extension lead, burco and boil it at the end of the garden. Wife is happy, neighbours might not be
same here, chilli has never made a difference when i've used it alongside just pure boiled hemp.
re Garlic, long extension lead, burco and boil it at the end of the garden. Wife is happy, neighbours might not be
I was interested to hear Jacko saying he found that fish would re-visit areas he baited with chilli hemp days after they had been fed on. His belief was the chilli gets into the lake bottom and keeps them digging about.
I cooked up about 3 kg of finished hemp yesterday as a test run. Drained while hot then mixed in a handful of rock salt, glug of oil, two large spoons of hot chilli powder and three spoons of a spice mix. Then topped up with a bit of the warm cooking water.
I reckon I'd eat it for what that's worth!
I cooked up about 3 kg of finished hemp yesterday as a test run. Drained while hot then mixed in a handful of rock salt, glug of oil, two large spoons of hot chilli powder and three spoons of a spice mix. Then topped up with a bit of the warm cooking water.
I reckon I'd eat it for what that's worth!
In reply to Post #1
Why mess about with hemp? It's awesome just as it is, and adding stuff to it detracts from that imo. Same with tigers. Nice and fresh and plain is the way to go
Why mess about with hemp? It's awesome just as it is, and adding stuff to it detracts from that imo. Same with tigers. Nice and fresh and plain is the way to go
In reply to Post #9
Exactly my view.
Ive never understood flavouring etc particles.
Each to their own though
Exactly my view.
Ive never understood flavouring etc particles.
Each to their own though
In reply to Post #9
I think I tried to answer that in post 8.
Would you put salt or spices in any bait for attraction or palatability?
I think I tried to answer that in post 8.
Would you put salt or spices in any bait for attraction or palatability?
In reply to Post #11
Not the best ones like hemp tigers maize no. Maples a bit of sweetener. Pigeon conditioner takes stuff well, and I always used to add bits but have learnt there's no need and it makes no difference to results so no longer bother . I keep the spices for my boilies
Jacko, legend that he is, imo is wrong. It's the hemp itself that keeps them grubbing about. They don't get every single grain straight away so there's always something there to draw them in to some extent
Not the best ones like hemp tigers maize no. Maples a bit of sweetener. Pigeon conditioner takes stuff well, and I always used to add bits but have learnt there's no need and it makes no difference to results so no longer bother . I keep the spices for my boilies
Jacko, legend that he is, imo is wrong. It's the hemp itself that keeps them grubbing about. They don't get every single grain straight away so there's always something there to draw them in to some extent
In reply to Post #9
Actually, adding palatable additives to anything can improve it. The more food and investigative triggers in your area the high the likelihood of inducing a fish to feed. Hemp is brilliant on its own but there definately been documented occasions where chilli gets them onto it where plain hemp fails.
It isn't all the time mind, as I previously said, but it's never detracted from it in personal experience.
A firm favourite is hemp cooked with garlic AND chilli, because A, it smells delicious lol, and B, tge combination of the two seems to outweigh the effectiveness of the singular additive or plain hemp the majority of the time.
My preference for making garlic hemp is actually to slice two bulbs in half and soak / cook with them as opposed to the oil mentioned, just trying to save Nick a few Bob
Actually, adding palatable additives to anything can improve it. The more food and investigative triggers in your area the high the likelihood of inducing a fish to feed. Hemp is brilliant on its own but there definately been documented occasions where chilli gets them onto it where plain hemp fails.
It isn't all the time mind, as I previously said, but it's never detracted from it in personal experience.
A firm favourite is hemp cooked with garlic AND chilli, because A, it smells delicious lol, and B, tge combination of the two seems to outweigh the effectiveness of the singular additive or plain hemp the majority of the time.
My preference for making garlic hemp is actually to slice two bulbs in half and soak / cook with them as opposed to the oil mentioned, just trying to save Nick a few Bob
In reply to Post #13
In your opinion nick
Too many "investigative triggers" as you scientists call them could possibly have a detrimental effect imo, and as none of us are actually carp we'll never know for sure either way. All I know is I've been using hemp for over 30 years now and in all that time ,my thoughts are leave it alone and let the little seeds work their magic. If something needs all these extra bits in then maybe it's not that good a catcher as it is ..
In your opinion nick
Too many "investigative triggers" as you scientists call them could possibly have a detrimental effect imo, and as none of us are actually carp we'll never know for sure either way. All I know is I've been using hemp for over 30 years now and in all that time ,my thoughts are leave it alone and let the little seeds work their magic. If something needs all these extra bits in then maybe it's not that good a catcher as it is ..
I've tried Hemp with garlic, chilli and paprika and combinations of the Spices and don't think any have been any better than plain Hemp for holding fish. One benefit of the Spices is that the Hemp doesn't go off so quickly, I've always found Hemp best when really fresh and if the Spices keep it to fresh for an extra day it might be helpful in some circumstances.