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Essential baits fruit factor six (FF6) and liquid (14 posts / 3,514 views)
2ambream
Posts: 130
Post #1 19 Jan 2022 20:11
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Can someone with more bait knowledge than me tell me if you would use FF6 'AND' a liquid sweetner when knocking up a kg food base mix.

Ff6 is a natural protein sweetner so It's a bit confusing 'to me' whether I should include a liquid sweetner too or would it over do it.

Thanks in advance for help
keeperboy
Posts: 2,561
Post #2 19 Jan 2022 20:27
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In reply to Post #1
Yes I think you should add sweetner
I have ff6 (as you know it)
It isn't actually that sweet and I think many of the fruit palatants need help on taste. Smells mega though
Some of the creams and vanillin's are harsh and bitter, some of the fruits taste soapy and sour so all need to be mixed with other elements to improve taste.
2ambream
Posts: 130
Post #3 19 Jan 2022 21:24
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In reply to Post #2
Thanks mate
Carplord
Posts: 73
Post #4 21 Jan 2022 08:48
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In reply to Post #3
Just ordered some of this along with their betaine and squid stim and squid flavour.

If I was to add all three how many grams of the powders each for a 1 egg popup mix?
scaley&dark
Posts: 5,573
Post #5 21 Jan 2022 09:24
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In reply to Post #4
If I was to add all three how many grams of the powders each for a 1 egg popup mix?

The same dosage levels they recommend on each product, for a 16oz mix. 1 level teaspoon for example.


Carplord
Posts: 73
Post #6 21 Jan 2022 15:10
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In reply to Post #5
They recommend 5 grams per kilo on the label.

Which is around 6 eggs. So 0.83grams for a 1 egg mix is that correct?

Cheers
2ambream
Posts: 130
Post #7 21 Jan 2022 18:34
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In reply to Post #4
I asked Mike about mixing Squid stim & Ff6, he doesn't recommend it, he said use one or the other.

Ff6 for pop ups no more than a gram of ff6 for a one egg mix
Carplord
Posts: 73
Post #8 21 Jan 2022 20:49
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In reply to Post #7
Who's Mike?
chrispfox chrispfox
Posts: 600
Post #9 21 Jan 2022 21:18
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In reply to Post #8
Mike Willmott. Runs Essential Baits.
Carplord
Posts: 73
Post #10 22 Jan 2022 09:03
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In reply to Post #9
What's the thinking for not mixing the two?
frothey frothey
Posts: 3,580
Post #11 22 Jan 2022 10:23
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In reply to Post #10
Sometimes you can be overdosing an ingredient if it has some of the same in both. Or they can cancel each other out.

“Proper” Scopex has n-butyric in it for example, so no need to add more - you could end up repelling fish.
2ambream
Posts: 130
Post #12 22 Jan 2022 15:58
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Yes that's what Mike said, they would cancel each other out
Roydutchy
Posts: 92
Post #13 22 Jan 2022 18:25
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In reply to Post #12
Just use the ff6 its enough to put you on the carp. Altough the tench are also wild for it...
Carplord
Posts: 73
Post #14 23 Jan 2022 12:33
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In reply to Post #13
Cool will just stick to the one! Cheers
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