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Ethyl alcohol cooking eggs (14 posts / 1,119 views)
Stevethefishy Stevethefishy
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Post #1 25 Aug 2021 08:22
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Thought I'd try adding an ethyl alcohol flavour for a change
to my usual pop up mix
Unfortunately the flavour is reacting with the eggs making it almost
Impossible to roll,
Anyone experienced this ?
I understand the alcohol and eggs concept
I've used these types of flavours in the past and cannot remember having
this degree of trouble although it's been a while , SBS Cornish ice cream and
Strawberry jam spring to mind
I can just about hand roll them with patience
kells kells
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Post #2 25 Aug 2021 08:36
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In reply to Post #1
In what way are they impossible to roll? And why do you think the EA flavouring is the reason?
JohnnyEnglish JohnnyEnglish
Posts: 237
Post #3 25 Aug 2021 09:05
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In reply to Post #1
Alcohol denatures proteins by breaking their chemical bonds but you would need an excessive amount of EA to cause rolling problems when baitmaking
Ynnek
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Post #4 25 Aug 2021 09:37
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In reply to Post #1
At what levels do you dose the flavour?
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
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Post #5 25 Aug 2021 12:03
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In reply to Post #1
Is the flavour very acidic? Could be this. I had problems with JB Toppex with this.
Baitman Baitman
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Post #6 25 Aug 2021 12:19
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In reply to Post #1
Are you adding any n-butyric acid, that'll cook your eggs.
ip100 ip100
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Post #7 25 Aug 2021 12:34
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In reply to Post #6
Only if you add too much....
Stevethefishy Stevethefishy
Posts: 314
Post #8 25 Aug 2021 16:55
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In reply to Post #7
These are hookbaits with a higher amount of flavouring than normal for me
Just as an experiment
The eggs turn gloopy , maybe I should try reducing the flavour 😂
No butyric , just a flavour and an essential oil

ip100 ip100
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Post #9 25 Aug 2021 17:06
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In reply to Post #8
How much flavour and oil? And what mix is it?
Stevethefishy Stevethefishy
Posts: 314
Post #10 25 Aug 2021 18:31
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In reply to Post #9
Milk/ bird mix
Although this can be discounted
As I can see the eggs turn
I think I can solve this hopefully just by adding EA gradually
to half an egg and wait for a reaction
Although I'm guessing a small amount could still have an effect over a
given time
Ynnek
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Post #11 26 Aug 2021 04:46
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In reply to Post #10
You can also use an egg replacer such as egg powder or blood plasma.
Then you don't have any issues with the reaction of the liquid egg with your flavour
Stevethefishy Stevethefishy
Posts: 314
Post #12 26 Aug 2021 08:22
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In reply to Post #11
That was something I was considering if the experiment was
someway successful , I imagine my current levels are too high , although ive
Hand fed carp, and they take the bait, I did wonder if albumen would still react in the bait
once liquid were added, this method may allow me more time the roll the bait
Also the finished bait once boiled is fine
Jason@DNA
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Post #13 26 Aug 2021 09:10
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In reply to Post #1
Try adding some basemix to your eggs first to create a sloppy soup, then add your flavours. This should stop the flavour cutting the eggs.
Stevethefishy Stevethefishy
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Post #14 26 Aug 2021 09:41
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In reply to Post #13
I'll give it a go, thanks
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