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Liquids in 12ft + Up or Down? (15 posts / 1,820 views)
amsterDan amsterDan
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Post #1 8 Jun 2021 10:25
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Had success spombing out liquids with minimal food content but lots of attraction (eg. hydro fish, salmon oil, molasses, fish sauce, coffee milks mixed up) - but fishing a deep lake with 12ft margins and wondering whether it's dispersing before even reaching bottom. Any 'heavy liquids' to add to mix? Used to soak vitalin balls and add bicarb soda but prefer to avoid particles in swim..thinking about scalding pellets, making balls and soaking them so they break up on bottom and pull fish down? Interested in your thoughts on this?
Canalcarper71 Canalcarper71
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Post #2 8 Jun 2021 11:39
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In reply to Post #1
What about ground up pop ups added to your pellet and balled in and as the balls soften the pop ups should rise slowly especially if the mix is soaked in liquid too help slow the crushed pop ups down
ip100 ip100
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Post #3 8 Jun 2021 11:50
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In reply to Post #1
Pva bags filled with liquid and a stone? I'd avoid crushing popups as the other post says, they are filled with little balls of glass and aren't actually meant to be consumed
amsterDan amsterDan
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Post #4 9 Jun 2021 08:19
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Thanks. Had considered crushing & soaking ‘floating' pellets as part of the mix, interested if there are liquids that get down to the deck & stay down. ‘Balling it in' preferable to spombing for ‘little & often' approach as fish pretty spooky - a few golfballs every few hrs best in situation.
amsterDan amsterDan
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Post #5 9 Jun 2021 09:50
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In reply to Post #4
Answered my own Q - molasses and honey seem to have the highest density.

https://www.wccusd.net/cms/lib/CA01001466/Centricity/domain/1040/grade%208%20lessons/LiquidDensityColumnV2.pdf
Adamroybooth Adamroybooth
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Post #6 9 Jun 2021 09:51
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Hi buddy

Heavy Liquid - ive done well on this, but it is a pain to make. For application in fishing, the only real writing on it will be in Jason Riders new book out soon.

Other than that adding a gelatine solution to any liquid will alter its consistency. Dont forget that the water temp its going into will dramatically affect the end consistency.
amsterDan amsterDan
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Post #7 9 Jun 2021 19:03
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Interesting - thanks for the tip. Makes sense, so you'd make it ‘jelly-ish' (thicker than water) to get it down.
Ever tried Agar Agar (xanthan gum) or Tapioca pearls? I started off mixing white crumb into the mix but would prefer to have a liquid presence on the deck rather than an obvious ‘white spot' once the stuff's settled a bit.

Like you say, v.successful in the correct depths but I think depths >12ft need a bit more density to get the liquids down.
christian
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Post #8 9 Jun 2021 21:39
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In reply to Post #7
If your liquid is thick and "sticky" then mixing in some kiln dried sand or oyster shell, both will carry your liquid down to the bottom.
amsterDan amsterDan
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Post #9 10 Jun 2021 08:33
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In reply to Post #8
Would swan mussel shell be ok, lighter than oyster I guess?
mistercarp
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Post #10 13 Jun 2021 20:01
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In reply to Post #9
I would use Wheat Hydro, it's really thick and heavy with crushed (floating) dry cat biscuits, so those particles will want to float up. That would be my base to add attractors to.
Adamroybooth Adamroybooth
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Post #11 13 Jun 2021 21:30
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In reply to Post #7
Agar - yes. Find gelatin easier to tweek. Test it by putting it in a tub of pretty cold water.

Don't forget that if there's quite a tow on your water , it may not end up directly under where it's put in ( said 12ft depth)
Budgesta Budgesta
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Post #12 14 Jun 2021 09:00
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In reply to Post #1
condensed mik is very heavy in water ?
amsterDan amsterDan
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Post #13 19 Jun 2021 22:25
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Thx 4 the suggestions. If you make a mix of liquids of different densities, do they separate & sink accordingly or act as one liquid & sink as a mix over that kind of depth?
Adamroybooth Adamroybooth
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Post #14 20 Jun 2021 00:20
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In reply to Post #13
Just one if you mix them together into one liquid.
mistercarp
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Post #15 20 Jun 2021 05:55
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In reply to Post #14
Personally I think that has got to do with the make up of the different liquids as oily liquids will want to separate and float to the top. This also happens with different soaks /dips in the shops. I also get it with for instance csl.
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