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Splicing lead free leader (38 posts / 3,220 views)
Bazza10
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Post #1 10 Mar 2021 15:41
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I have just bought the avid pin down lead free leader material in 50lbs. Never spliced before so giving it a go hoping to save abit of money making my own leaders instead of buying ready made. I have the avid retracta needles. Had abit of a go at it and made a right mess 😫 does anyone have any tips to make it easier?
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #2 10 Mar 2021 15:46
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In reply to Post #1
Buy one of the fox easy splicing needles
Cam Cam
MODERATORMOD
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Post #3 10 Mar 2021 15:58
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In reply to Post #1
There's this thread here.

Photo guide to using leadcore

I use ESP Leadcore, not tried leadfree so can't comment but is it any different to splice?
I found the FOX bobbin threader next to useless, just bent and wouldn't go into the outer sheath at all.
ESP Splicing needles for me. The main thing is to be patient with it. Twist and pull the sheath back over rather than trying to pull the needle out/thru'.
Don't get me wrong I go thru' splicing needles like nobody's business lol
TeeCee
Posts: 2,009
Post #4 10 Mar 2021 16:20
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Pro tip:

Be really, really easy on the splicing needle's as you'll go through bundles of um.
Boris_Carp Boris_Carp
Posts: 2,135
Post #5 10 Mar 2021 16:21
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In reply to Post #3
Esp or Thinking Anglers needles I found best with the Avid stuff as Cam said be patient 👍
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #6 10 Mar 2021 16:41
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Bazza10
Posts: 203
Post #7 10 Mar 2021 16:48
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In reply to Post #6
I can't get the needle to go up the material 😡😡😡
runneil runneil
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Post #8 10 Mar 2021 16:52
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In reply to Post #1
It can be tricky , I use Avid pindown in 50lb, I splice it with a thinking anglers splicing needle, you just have to be careful not to push the needle straight through and out the other side, once its running down the centre of the braid its fine, I always splice a full needle length as it can pull back through if you do a short splice.
runneil runneil
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Post #10 10 Mar 2021 16:54
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In reply to Post #7
It will go you just need to get careful when getting it started, once you've done it once, it will be fairly easy.
Bazza10
Posts: 203
Post #11 10 Mar 2021 17:04
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In reply to Post #8
When you say you splice a full needle length do you mean once the needle is running down the centre? Or do you measure this before threading the needle inside? Sorry if I sound stupid but never done this before 😫
runneil runneil
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Post #12 10 Mar 2021 17:06
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In reply to Post #7
I think the issue with this unleaded material is its so supple its easy to push the needle out the other side, you need to support it with you finger and thumb, lead core is easier as a length of lead has been removed leaving a channel for the needle to travel along, where as you almost have to seperate the walls of the unleaded stuff which is the difficult part.
runneil runneil
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Post #13 10 Mar 2021 17:11
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In reply to Post #11
Yeh You want to start inserting the splicing needle around two full lengths of your splicing needle back down the material. Then insert the needle a full length, pop the needle through the wall of the braid , hook the end of the braid into the gate latch and pull the remainder through leaving a small loop.
KenTownley KenTownley
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Post #14 10 Mar 2021 17:30
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You can make dozens of bobbin threaders out of a spool of this stuff:





Remember, practice makes perfect!
duggs
Posts: 5,559
Post #15 10 Mar 2021 18:22
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Do you really need spliced loops?
Even with lead core or rigmarole linktec I'll often knot it at the bottom, and I prefer a needle knot to connect it to the mainline
TeeCee
Posts: 2,009
Post #16 10 Mar 2021 18:26
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In reply to Post #14
That's a great tip Ken. Awesome 👍
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