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COMPUTER advice help please ? (10 posts / 1,092 views)
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #1 21 Sep 2020 12:55
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right I spent the pension on a new PC and its got a 512gb ssd

and its got a HD hot swap mobiles rack that can take a 2.5 OR a 3.5 OR a SSD Sata in it ????


here comes the total confusion whats the difference ? someone told me that if I did indeed buy a second HD I could back up or possibly clone the PC hard drive on it
I dont ever play games as Im hopeless at them lol so soooper doooper performance is not a priority but price (cheap is good) and reliability is tops

thanks for any help links advice etc
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #2 21 Sep 2020 13:30
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Don't take this gospel I'm sure someone will be along shortly but hard drives come in the sizes 2.5" which is what a laptop would use. They also come in 3.5" which being larger will only fit in a Pc.
Older magnetic drives that we have all used come in 2.5" and 3.5". Newer solid state drives (SSD) are mostly the 2.5" size. You can ignore the SATA bit all hard drives are SATA nowadays and have been for a number of years.
So it looks like your computer is able to accept any type of SATA drive whether it's 2.5", 3.5" magnetic or SSD so you're spoilt for choice.

The bit I'm not sure about is the hot swappable bit. Your 512MB SSD that came with your computer would remain in place at all times. The hot swappable bit suggests you can put in and take out lots of different hard drives as described above but I'm guessing you don't want to do that. You'll just want to put in one extra hard drive and leave it there for good so you can do back ups to it?

Hope that keeps you going until someone else comes along
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #3 21 Sep 2020 20:11
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In reply to Post #2
thanks I took a chance and I have ordered a LINKY POO
And if its wrong I will send it back
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #4 21 Sep 2020 20:34
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That's not a SSD but it doesn't really matter as it's only for backups
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #5 22 Sep 2020 15:01
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I am shocked and stunned !

I ordered it online from Scan computers at 15.30 they are way up Norff somewhere that speaks funny
and it said next day delivery and I thought yea right !!! golly gosh 11.15 knock on the door and it was here !!!!!!!
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #6 22 Sep 2020 18:15
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DiesilVan
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Post #7 11 Oct 2020 02:47
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I have only just come across this post! If I had seen it sooner, I have a few HDD's sat on my shelf doing nothing but gathering dust at the moment. I would have sent you one for the price of postage, Gerry! At a glance I can see 2 x 2TB, a 1TB & a 500GB which I have kept for "spares" should I have any drive issues arise (I have no space in any of my machines for any more drives!). I won't use them myself now as all the traditional 3.5" spinning drives in my systems are all 3TB & larger (12 in total along with various 2.5" SSD's & m.2 NVME storage solutions. Upto 46TB in total now on my 2 media servers & main desktop, & still running low on space constantly (meaning almost constant re-encoding of media to more efficient codec's).
Not
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Post #8 20 Oct 2020 22:07
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When they say hot swappable are they meaning the type of RAID backup array?

For example your 512GB disk might only have 256GB available as it's mirrored across the 2 disks, so you can swap a disk if it has a mechanical fault and not lose data and files and ****.
stephen1 stephen1
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Post #9 24 Oct 2020 11:35
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No they mean it can be changed without powering down the device.
DiesilVan
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Post #10 6 Nov 2020 20:54
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No they mean it can be changed without powering down the device.

Exactly this. Not many consumer cases that have hot swappable bays (usually reserved for servers which run redundant RAID arrays so easy to replace a disk in the array without powering down as it will then rebuild the array to incorporate the replaced disk). The only case I know of in the past 10 years of so that was readily available to the public with a hot swap bay was the Coolermaster Silencio 650, which had a hot swap dock in one of the external 5.25" drive bays & was also supplied with a "sled" that a 2.5" SATA drive could be fitted to & pushed into the dock (a 3.5" drive didn't require the sled and would push straight in like an Atari cartridge would). What you need to be careful about with hot swap bays is that the function for it is switched on in the BIOS for the SATA controller port it is connected to (if not it would not be recognised until the machine is restarted) & you would also need to prepare it for ejection so the heads were automatically parked before it was removed to eliminate the risk of the heads crashing into the platters & damaging the drive storage platters. Obviously this is almost eliminated with SSD's. Also "ejecting" the drive in the OS instead of simply pulling it out also stops all activity on the drive meaning that data is fully written to the drive before removal so not lost if the drive is removed whilst it is in use. I used the hot swap dock in mine for backing up purposes (removed the drive after each back up so nothing would happen to the back up accidentally) or for imaging drives from other machines to one of the larger drives in the system before I started doing any work on it so I had a full backup of the drive as it was in case of any issues (or the customer telling me they hadn't backed up their personal data before leaving it with me for repair).
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