Anyone on here have a bit of experience with these?
I've had one for a while I use for a couple of specific tasks, I'm looking to use it for some DIY but will need a few different tips to the ones I use for work, are the cheapo tips on amazon usable?
Also where can I get pre cat paints without opening trade accounts? I'm gonna want some to practice with just to see if my sprayer/technique are good enough to offer the service. I have some graco fflp tips I intend to use for this, if there are better tips for those paints the info will be much appreciated
Edit: I also have a compressor and could add a gun if the airless isn't suited to those paints
I've had one for a while I use for a couple of specific tasks, I'm looking to use it for some DIY but will need a few different tips to the ones I use for work, are the cheapo tips on amazon usable?
Also where can I get pre cat paints without opening trade accounts? I'm gonna want some to practice with just to see if my sprayer/technique are good enough to offer the service. I have some graco fflp tips I intend to use for this, if there are better tips for those paints the info will be much appreciated
Edit: I also have a compressor and could add a gun if the airless isn't suited to those paints
In reply to Post #1
I've used the cheap Chinese tips on emulsion for walls and ceilings in 515 size and they were fine, also used 311 and 313 with water based paints on woodwork with great results. Cant help with the pre cat paint but if you want a very good water based paint look no further than the Benjamin Moore stuff from the US sold over here by Shaws Paints
I've used the cheap Chinese tips on emulsion for walls and ceilings in 515 size and they were fine, also used 311 and 313 with water based paints on woodwork with great results. Cant help with the pre cat paint but if you want a very good water based paint look no further than the Benjamin Moore stuff from the US sold over here by Shaws Paints
In reply to Post #2
Thanks for that I'll take a punt on some budget tips then
I think I'll want 1xx 2xx 3xx and 5xx, some in a couple of bores so I don't want to pay £25 each
That paint looks interesting, I've found one decent waterbased paint that gives a very good and extremely durable finish, but it's only available in white and doesn't take tints well, the finish is noticibly different in off white and pretty poor if you go past a magnolia type shade
Looking at pre cats just to speed up the curing process really, I don't have the space currently to store panels until the paint is hard enough to transport, if I can get it ready in hours rather than days it might be viable.
Also interested to see how hard it is to do, it's really frustrating that most spray shops I've used rarely complete a job within the quoted time or budget, the ones that have are a lot more expensive with long lead times
Thanks for that I'll take a punt on some budget tips then
I think I'll want 1xx 2xx 3xx and 5xx, some in a couple of bores so I don't want to pay £25 each
That paint looks interesting, I've found one decent waterbased paint that gives a very good and extremely durable finish, but it's only available in white and doesn't take tints well, the finish is noticibly different in off white and pretty poor if you go past a magnolia type shade
Looking at pre cats just to speed up the curing process really, I don't have the space currently to store panels until the paint is hard enough to transport, if I can get it ready in hours rather than days it might be viable.
Also interested to see how hard it is to do, it's really frustrating that most spray shops I've used rarely complete a job within the quoted time or budget, the ones that have are a lot more expensive with long lead times
In reply to Post #3
What is it that you need to paint (if you don't mind me asking)?
What is it that you need to paint (if you don't mind me asking)?
In reply to Post #4
Re the tips, interior: walls, doors, trims, possibly the staircase if all else goes well, plus some cupboards and bath panel I haven't made yet.
Exterior: pebbledash! Fences, some cupboards
Lots of DIY jobs I'd like to speed up so I can do a bit more fishing
As for the paint I asked about, that would be for interior joinery, wardrobes cupboards etc mostly plain or veneered mdf with some hardwood doors
Re the tips, interior: walls, doors, trims, possibly the staircase if all else goes well, plus some cupboards and bath panel I haven't made yet.
Exterior: pebbledash! Fences, some cupboards
Lots of DIY jobs I'd like to speed up so I can do a bit more fishing
As for the paint I asked about, that would be for interior joinery, wardrobes cupboards etc mostly plain or veneered mdf with some hardwood doors
In reply to Post #5
You do pick expensive toys don't you mate
You do pick expensive toys don't you mate
In reply to Post #5
Ok, it's been several years since i've sprayed mdf (making wardrobes, shelving units etc.).
However Morrells interior laquers had a good reputation back then and i have used their water borne lacquers and primer myself in the past.
https://www.morrells.co.uk/products/wood-finishes/interior-lacquers/
Might be worth considering.
Ok, it's been several years since i've sprayed mdf (making wardrobes, shelving units etc.).
However Morrells interior laquers had a good reputation back then and i have used their water borne lacquers and primer myself in the past.
https://www.morrells.co.uk/products/wood-finishes/interior-lacquers/
Might be worth considering.
In reply to Post #7
And i just used to use an Earlex airless sprayer which i think cost me about £200.
The finish was ok but if i wanted a really efficient professional finish time after time i would consider investing in professional spraying equipment.
For the smaller jobs you don't save much time over brush/roller because of the set up and cleaning up time.
But you should get a better end result to the finished job.
And i just used to use an Earlex airless sprayer which i think cost me about £200.
The finish was ok but if i wanted a really efficient professional finish time after time i would consider investing in professional spraying equipment.
For the smaller jobs you don't save much time over brush/roller because of the set up and cleaning up time.
But you should get a better end result to the finished job.
In reply to Post #6
Basic models aren't that much mate, I bought a cheap one used for 100, which paid for itself in the 1st couple of weeks, when that died I got a slightly better one new. Yes it's a lot more than a roller but so much quicker. Well worth it if you want to prime large volumes occasionally, it gives a better surface for the decorators and you don't have to get the brush out for fussier mouldings.
It needs volume to pay for itself tho, priming one rooms worth of skirts architraves would be about the same time after you've cleaned the sprayer vs a disposable roller and brush
If you want an expensive toy check out shaper tools handheld cnc, I was playing with one the other week and can't unsee it shapertoolsuk
Basic models aren't that much mate, I bought a cheap one used for 100, which paid for itself in the 1st couple of weeks, when that died I got a slightly better one new. Yes it's a lot more than a roller but so much quicker. Well worth it if you want to prime large volumes occasionally, it gives a better surface for the decorators and you don't have to get the brush out for fussier mouldings.
It needs volume to pay for itself tho, priming one rooms worth of skirts architraves would be about the same time after you've cleaned the sprayer vs a disposable roller and brush
If you want an expensive toy check out shaper tools handheld cnc, I was playing with one the other week and can't unsee it
shapertoolsuk
In reply to Post #7
That's the sort of paint I'm looking for, I had seen that site but couldn't find any price or buying options
That's the sort of paint I'm looking for, I had seen that site but couldn't find any price or buying options
In reply to Post #9
I'm with you mate, it's the future
My mate is a few grand deep and still has a list of ‘essentials' as long as your arm. The finish and time saved is well worth the expense though, same as anything really... the right tool for the job makes all the difference
I'm with you mate, it's the future
My mate is a few grand deep and still has a list of ‘essentials' as long as your arm. The finish and time saved is well worth the expense though, same as anything really... the right tool for the job makes all the difference
In reply to Post #11
For decorating they're great, and well worth investing in, but I'm a chippy, and it was only after seeing a few nice jobs looking awful after DIY paint jobs I started doing a ready to paint finish for private punters, basically filled, knotted, primed and sanded, basically any muppet should be able to get a good finish, and I don't get that sinking feeling if I go back and see a weeks work that's only had one coat of one coat
The basic kit with a couple of cheapo gun extensions is all I need
For decorating they're great, and well worth investing in, but I'm a chippy, and it was only after seeing a few nice jobs looking awful after DIY paint jobs I started doing a ready to paint finish for private punters, basically filled, knotted, primed and sanded, basically any muppet should be able to get a good finish, and I don't get that sinking feeling if I go back and see a weeks work that's only had one coat of one coat
The basic kit with a couple of cheapo gun extensions is all I need
In reply to Post #12
Nothing worse than the famous line, “we're doing the painting ourselves”
Nothing worse than the famous line, “we're doing the painting ourselves”
In reply to Post #10
There's a section on the website with stockists locations.
When i bought paint I just googled "morrells paint suppliers" and i found the nearest stockist was still miles from me, but i ordered online and they sent it out to me by courier.
There's a section on the website with stockists locations.
When i bought paint I just googled "morrells paint suppliers" and i found the nearest stockist was still miles from me, but i ordered online and they sent it out to me by courier.
In reply to Post #14
There's one in Acton and I have a job over that way sonn, I'll try and have a look
There's one in Acton and I have a job over that way sonn, I'll try and have a look