fluorocarbon main line and running rigs do we have any users on here just interested to know What's the maximum distance you would be happy fishing at l have fished with fluorocarbon tiger line quite a lot over the last couple of years but not on a running rig set up and only close in work, don't want a debate about slack / tight lines or which is best fluorocarbon think we've heard it all before.
Many thanks in advance
Many thanks in advance
In reply to Post #1
If it was relatively weed and snag free, using fluorocarbon I'd happily fish a running rig at any distance providing undertow and currents weren't a problem. I'd want a reasonable size lead at longer distance. Only thing is I wouldn't cast a running rig further than I could see it land properly to ensure it's not tangled.
If it was relatively weed and snag free, using fluorocarbon I'd happily fish a running rig at any distance providing undertow and currents weren't a problem. I'd want a reasonable size lead at longer distance. Only thing is I wouldn't cast a running rig further than I could see it land properly to ensure it's not tangled.
In reply to Post #3
Fished this set up at 140-150 yds with no problems.
Bait boated out with a heavier lead to stop the rig being pulled away from the baited area when dropped.
Runs are the same. Screamers.
Bait boated out with a heavier lead to stop the rig being pulled away from the baited area when dropped.
Runs are the same. Screamers.
In reply to Post #3
I did a season with 20lb x line on my reels. To be fair the vast majority of my fishing was at under 30 yards, with the odd cast at showing fish up to around 80 yards. I simply stated IF undertow didn't create dramas then this is how i'd fish at distance if dropping rigs from boat maybe etc as I haven't fished this way at great ranges. I also wouldn't like fishing clips as I'm pretty paranoid about tangles, and therefore use heli rigs mostly now.
I did a season with 20lb x line on my reels. To be fair the vast majority of my fishing was at under 30 yards, with the odd cast at showing fish up to around 80 yards. I simply stated IF undertow didn't create dramas then this is how i'd fish at distance if dropping rigs from boat maybe etc as I haven't fished this way at great ranges. I also wouldn't like fishing clips as I'm pretty paranoid about tangles, and therefore use heli rigs mostly now.
In reply to Post #6
I use them regularly upto 80 yards, after that I would either switch to a clip or PVA the lead up. I dont really use them on anything other than open water, definately no weed or snags and I tend to use a heavy led so they dont move.
I use them regularly upto 80 yards, after that I would either switch to a clip or PVA the lead up. I dont really use them on anything other than open water, definately no weed or snags and I tend to use a heavy led so they dont move.
In reply to Post #5
Agree, I have used fluro and running rigs at this distance and have found the setup to still function well (dropping from a boat not casting). If casting long, as others have mentioned, I will on occasion pva the ceramic ring to the hooklink swivel but only do so if I'm worried about hooklink tangling around the lead set up on the cast or if I'm trying for maximum distance as I've found I can cast a little further with the ring Pva'd.
Agree, I have used fluro and running rigs at this distance and have found the setup to still function well (dropping from a boat not casting). If casting long, as others have mentioned, I will on occasion pva the ceramic ring to the hooklink swivel but only do so if I'm worried about hooklink tangling around the lead set up on the cast or if I'm trying for maximum distance as I've found I can cast a little further with the ring Pva'd.
In reply to Post #8
Like l said only used this method for close in work but was wondering how it would work at say 70/80 yards and what bite indication would be like but now l'm worried about tangles are running rigs prone to tangling and never heard about tying the lead with pva how does this work then and does it help with tangles, learning something new every day.
Many thanks for the reply's
Like l said only used this method for close in work but was wondering how it would work at say 70/80 yards and what bite indication would be like but now l'm worried about tangles are running rigs prone to tangling and never heard about tying the lead with pva how does this work then and does it help with tangles, learning something new every day.
Many thanks for the reply's
In reply to Post #9
Hi daytripper,
Will work equally well at 70-80 yards as it does close in.
I think most of the tangles are caused by the angler's casting and feathering actions. For instance I suffer and use pva to effectively make the lead fixed during the cast and settling of the rig.
Whereas my fishing mate has no problems casting it out "naked" So as to speak with no problems re tangles.
Cast the rig out and if you start experiencing tangles use some pva to "captive" the lead.
Best
Jon
Hi daytripper,
Will work equally well at 70-80 yards as it does close in.
I think most of the tangles are caused by the angler's casting and feathering actions. For instance I suffer and use pva to effectively make the lead fixed during the cast and settling of the rig.
Whereas my fishing mate has no problems casting it out "naked" So as to speak with no problems re tangles.
Cast the rig out and if you start experiencing tangles use some pva to "captive" the lead.
Best
Jon
In reply to Post #9
Bite indication is the best you can get, don't worry about that bit.
Bite indication is the best you can get, don't worry about that bit.
In reply to Post #9
Aside from a float or quiver tip!
Aside from a float or quiver tip!
In reply to Post #9
As post 10 has explained it probably is a casting/feathering thing - using a long section of anti tangle rubber on the hooklink also helps but occasionally (and it seems to occur the longer out I am trying to fish) the hooklink will wrap around the section on the top of the lead where the lead meets the lead swivel - it really does not happen very often but it happens occasionally and if it is happening then pva the lead to either the hooklink swivel or (if you use them as I do)to the anti tangle rubber at the top of the hooklink directly- the way I do this is I cut a section of pva mesh as long as I need, I then cut it open so it is flat rather than circular and I then cut a relatively thin strip off it so I am left with a rectangular strip of pva mesh which is long but not wide - I then tie that around the area the hooklink occasionally gets trapped on (which is the bit where the lead swivel starts on the lead) and I then lie the lead side by side with the line in the normal way it would sit and double the pva around the rubber anti tackle sleeve and the lead and tie it to keep it in place - there is then no way for the hooklink to get tangled over the section it previously got tangled on and it melts very quickly in the water - I have found the korum and enterprise running rig setups to be very good with just a large buffer tulip bead covering the quick change swivel at the top of the hooklink. Pva tape or pva string would work just as well as mesh, I just use mesh as I always seem to have it with me but really tangling is not a big issue for me with the running rig (and it is all I have been using for 99% of my fishing for at least 5 seasons now) however, it is an issue which I find occasionally crops up when I am trying to fish long and PVA as per the above sorts it out for me (I also always have foam on the hook just to remove the unlikely risk of the hook itself catching the bottom of the lead swivel on casting).
As post 10 has explained it probably is a casting/feathering thing - using a long section of anti tangle rubber on the hooklink also helps but occasionally (and it seems to occur the longer out I am trying to fish) the hooklink will wrap around the section on the top of the lead where the lead meets the lead swivel - it really does not happen very often but it happens occasionally and if it is happening then pva the lead to either the hooklink swivel or (if you use them as I do)to the anti tangle rubber at the top of the hooklink directly- the way I do this is I cut a section of pva mesh as long as I need, I then cut it open so it is flat rather than circular and I then cut a relatively thin strip off it so I am left with a rectangular strip of pva mesh which is long but not wide - I then tie that around the area the hooklink occasionally gets trapped on (which is the bit where the lead swivel starts on the lead) and I then lie the lead side by side with the line in the normal way it would sit and double the pva around the rubber anti tackle sleeve and the lead and tie it to keep it in place - there is then no way for the hooklink to get tangled over the section it previously got tangled on and it melts very quickly in the water - I have found the korum and enterprise running rig setups to be very good with just a large buffer tulip bead covering the quick change swivel at the top of the hooklink. Pva tape or pva string would work just as well as mesh, I just use mesh as I always seem to have it with me but really tangling is not a big issue for me with the running rig (and it is all I have been using for 99% of my fishing for at least 5 seasons now) however, it is an issue which I find occasionally crops up when I am trying to fish long and PVA as per the above sorts it out for me (I also always have foam on the hook just to remove the unlikely risk of the hook itself catching the bottom of the lead swivel on casting).
In reply to Post #13
Hi lads just a quick update and to say thanks for all replies l had on the subject running rigs / slack line set up on this post and quite a few others and to let you know how l'm getting on, well l'm totally sold on it now granted l've landed more tench / bream than carp but bite indication even at 70 / 80 yards has been great and not suffering any tangles think my casting as improved at last anyway this is the bits l've settled on, 16lb tiger line ,enterprise tackle snag safe running lead clip, 1.5 square pear lead swivel cut off , Korda run ring rubber the one with the shoulder so the rig sits at a angle , Korda quick change swivel and korda anti tangle sleeve and it's working a treat at the moment for me l do have to wade out abit sometimes to get the distance with the small leads so l don't have give it to much wellies on the cast and risk a tangle but so far so good. So once again many thanks to you all on this and other posts on this subject
Cheers daytripper
Hi lads just a quick update and to say thanks for all replies l had on the subject running rigs / slack line set up on this post and quite a few others and to let you know how l'm getting on, well l'm totally sold on it now granted l've landed more tench / bream than carp but bite indication even at 70 / 80 yards has been great and not suffering any tangles think my casting as improved at last anyway this is the bits l've settled on, 16lb tiger line ,enterprise tackle snag safe running lead clip, 1.5 square pear lead swivel cut off , Korda run ring rubber the one with the shoulder so the rig sits at a angle , Korda quick change swivel and korda anti tangle sleeve and it's working a treat at the moment for me l do have to wade out abit sometimes to get the distance with the small leads so l don't have give it to much wellies on the cast and risk a tangle but so far so good. So once again many thanks to you all on this and other posts on this subject
Cheers daytripper
Loads of “lively” past discussions on this topic. My suggestion would be to closely read the posts by Keith Moors on the topic as he has really thought it through
http://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/SearchAction.asp Type in “Slack lines” and search
http://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/SearchAction.asp Type in “Slack lines” and search
In reply to Post #15
Keith Moors book is free to download from his website
Iv'e been chatting to him on facebook
The book is called Living with carp
Keith Moors book is free to download from his website
Iv'e been chatting to him on facebook
The book is called Living with carp