In reply to Post #107
Problem is many people that got vaccinated have positive test results so if test will be the norm (without considering vaccination)than good luck to them...
Problem is many people that got vaccinated have positive test results so if test will be the norm (without considering vaccination)than good luck to them...
In reply to Post #107
No answer at the moment as far as I can tell? The vaccine doesn´t stop you catching the virus it minimises the risk of severe consequences and the scientists are still not abale to determine whether you can still spread the virus if you have it and after receiving the vaccine. I think travel abroad will be on hold for months until the scientists understand more about the vaccine, virus and new variants, if we thought last year was tough, this one is going to be worse!
No answer at the moment as far as I can tell? The vaccine doesn´t stop you catching the virus it minimises the risk of severe consequences and the scientists are still not abale to determine whether you can still spread the virus if you have it and after receiving the vaccine. I think travel abroad will be on hold for months until the scientists understand more about the vaccine, virus and new variants, if we thought last year was tough, this one is going to be worse!
In reply to Post #107
I don't think the vaccine will make a jot of difference at this stage especially as the "experts" are now saying that the vaccine does not stop you contracting it and passing it on.......(nothing new there, the annual flu jab doesn't stop that either....
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As things stand at the moment you have to pay for a PCR test, (£150) and this must be undertaken less than 72hrs before you go out and this must show a negative result.
You are then requested to self-isolate in France for 7 days upon arrival. After the 7 days you must then take another PCR test, (another £150) and if that is negative you are then allowed to travel within France, subject to local restrictions.
Then when returning to the UK you have to have another PCR test before they will let you board a flight or get on the chunnel. When you get back to the UK at the moment you then have to self-isolate at home for anything up to 10 days. However, it looks highly likely that the UK will enforce a 10-day Hotel stay upon re-entry to the UK, (at your own cost) depending where you have been.....
Even if travel restrictions are lifted to allow recreation/leisure the testing and isolation will be with us for some time.
This is where a lot of people will come unstuck, Anglers or general holidaymakers because as soon as the French, (Spanish, Italian etc) lift travel restrictions enough you can go on your holiday......if you don't, because you cannot take 3 or 4 weeks off work to isolate/get the testing done then that will be YOUR CHOICE and the provider does not have to refund you or provide an alternative....neither would your travel insurers pay out.
So any fishery owners in France will know this, (a few have already been called out on Facebook for pretending not to) and will want you to hedge your bets rather than request new dates....
I don't think the vaccine will make a jot of difference at this stage especially as the "experts" are now saying that the vaccine does not stop you contracting it and passing it on.......(nothing new there, the annual flu jab doesn't stop that either....
)....As things stand at the moment you have to pay for a PCR test, (£150) and this must be undertaken less than 72hrs before you go out and this must show a negative result.
You are then requested to self-isolate in France for 7 days upon arrival. After the 7 days you must then take another PCR test, (another £150) and if that is negative you are then allowed to travel within France, subject to local restrictions.
Then when returning to the UK you have to have another PCR test before they will let you board a flight or get on the chunnel. When you get back to the UK at the moment you then have to self-isolate at home for anything up to 10 days. However, it looks highly likely that the UK will enforce a 10-day Hotel stay upon re-entry to the UK, (at your own cost) depending where you have been.....
Even if travel restrictions are lifted to allow recreation/leisure the testing and isolation will be with us for some time.
This is where a lot of people will come unstuck, Anglers or general holidaymakers because as soon as the French, (Spanish, Italian etc) lift travel restrictions enough you can go on your holiday......if you don't, because you cannot take 3 or 4 weeks off work to isolate/get the testing done then that will be YOUR CHOICE and the provider does not have to refund you or provide an alternative....neither would your travel insurers pay out.
So any fishery owners in France will know this, (a few have already been called out on Facebook for pretending not to) and will want you to hedge your bets rather than request new dates....
In reply to Post #110
In fairness Spod I feel you are voicing our fears of the worst scenario and our hopes are that things will change once the vaccination program is in full swing. The world cannot be put on hold for ever and if the bulk of the populations have been vaccinated than although the virus can still be transmitted the consequences will be more like a dose of flu rather than life changing. As a fishery owner we, like all others. are suffering the financial burden of total income loss for much of last year as well as at the very least, half of this year however with anglers holidays being put back at least the loss will not be theirs. I think it is wrong to see the current problems as being the way things will be later in the year when the virus will be somewhat better controlled. One thing is certain and that is that Covid will not go away and, like flu, will be with us for many years to come. The importance of an annual vaccination cannot be over stated and once that is freely available then travel restrictions will be lifted and life will once more get back to some sense of normality....imo
In fairness Spod I feel you are voicing our fears of the worst scenario and our hopes are that things will change once the vaccination program is in full swing. The world cannot be put on hold for ever and if the bulk of the populations have been vaccinated than although the virus can still be transmitted the consequences will be more like a dose of flu rather than life changing. As a fishery owner we, like all others. are suffering the financial burden of total income loss for much of last year as well as at the very least, half of this year however with anglers holidays being put back at least the loss will not be theirs. I think it is wrong to see the current problems as being the way things will be later in the year when the virus will be somewhat better controlled. One thing is certain and that is that Covid will not go away and, like flu, will be with us for many years to come. The importance of an annual vaccination cannot be over stated and once that is freely available then travel restrictions will be lifted and life will once more get back to some sense of normality....imo
In reply to Post #111
A positive and, what i believe to be, a realistic view of the future
A positive and, what i believe to be, a realistic view of the future
In reply to Post #112
Agreed 👍
Agreed 👍
In reply to Post #111
I agree with you completely and I did say, "at this stage"........It is highly unlikely that travel restrictions and isolation/testing restrictions will all be lifted at the same time and like you say whether you have had the vaccine or not, it will be a gradual thing at best.
I agree with you completely and I did say, "at this stage"........It is highly unlikely that travel restrictions and isolation/testing restrictions will all be lifted at the same time and like you say whether you have had the vaccine or not, it will be a gradual thing at best.
In reply to Post #111
Good post Oldfella
However, Covid-19 will be with us FOR EVER, rather than "for years to come" as it is a virus and I do not believe humanity has yet managed to erradicate viruses (unfortunately!).
We need to accept this fact and get on with our lives as much as possible, just like we do with the Flu every year. Vaccinate the vulnerable and let's get the feck back on with our lives.
Good post Oldfella
However, Covid-19 will be with us FOR EVER, rather than "for years to come" as it is a virus and I do not believe humanity has yet managed to erradicate viruses (unfortunately!).
We need to accept this fact and get on with our lives as much as possible, just like we do with the Flu every year. Vaccinate the vulnerable and let's get the feck back on with our lives.
In reply to Post #115
I agree. However smallpox was eradicated but it took 200 years!
I agree. However smallpox was eradicated but it took 200 years!
In reply to Post #116
Bullseye - LOL - I stand corrected!
Bullseye - LOL - I stand corrected!
We cancelled our week at the end of may yesterday
In reply to Post #118
I am still hopeful for my trip at the beginning of May so will wait to see what the situation is nearer the time before doing anything, I certainly won't be cancelling more likely move my trip if allowed
I am still hopeful for my trip at the beginning of May so will wait to see what the situation is nearer the time before doing anything, I certainly won't be cancelling more likely move my trip if allowed
In reply to Post #119
A couple of our party lost their jobs recently so rather than “hope” they can make it we decided it was in the best interest of us and the lake owners to cancel. Give the owners enough time to fill our week and if things improve on the job front we can look later in the year when hopefully this crap has settled down
A couple of our party lost their jobs recently so rather than “hope” they can make it we decided it was in the best interest of us and the lake owners to cancel. Give the owners enough time to fill our week and if things improve on the job front we can look later in the year when hopefully this crap has settled down
In reply to Post #119
As the owner of a french lake, I dont believe anyone from the UK will be fishing in France (legally) til at least July, if even then! What we have now is the way its gonna be for years , there is no future, its been taken away by the Chinese!!
As the owner of a french lake, I dont believe anyone from the UK will be fishing in France (legally) til at least July, if even then! What we have now is the way its gonna be for years , there is no future, its been taken away by the Chinese!!
In reply to Post #121
i feel for you guys in France with lakes..so hope we can all enjoy it as soon as possible
i feel for you guys in France with lakes..so hope we can all enjoy it as soon as possible