In reply to Post #67
By way of a little update.
Fished both baits until 10am this morning and the Decathlon bait got off to a good start, 3 fish including a 20lb cat. So switched both rods on to that and enjoyed a bit of fun throughout the day, 7 carp, 3 cats, 2 cats lost. No big carp but a 36lb cat gave a good account of itself.
The Decathlon baits breakdown fast. Within 2 hours they are about the size of a tigernut, after 3 hours there's nothing left on the hair.
The fella on the peg next door to me popped over to see what I was using as he had caught 1 carp in nearly ten hours. He was surprised to put it mildly when I told him what I was using.
Anyway, knowing they don't last long in the water, I put out the roast bone marrow about an hour ago at sunset and that's just screamed off with an 18lb lovely scaled common on the end.
Cracking day and a lot to be said for the Decathlon bait. It might not be something I've used much of in the past but it will be in the future.
I'll take it to a trickier water next and see how it gets on, but I genuinely cannot fault it.
Final day tomorrow 👌👍
By way of a little update.
Fished both baits until 10am this morning and the Decathlon bait got off to a good start, 3 fish including a 20lb cat. So switched both rods on to that and enjoyed a bit of fun throughout the day, 7 carp, 3 cats, 2 cats lost. No big carp but a 36lb cat gave a good account of itself.
The Decathlon baits breakdown fast. Within 2 hours they are about the size of a tigernut, after 3 hours there's nothing left on the hair.
The fella on the peg next door to me popped over to see what I was using as he had caught 1 carp in nearly ten hours. He was surprised to put it mildly when I told him what I was using.
Anyway, knowing they don't last long in the water, I put out the roast bone marrow about an hour ago at sunset and that's just screamed off with an 18lb lovely scaled common on the end.
Cracking day and a lot to be said for the Decathlon bait. It might not be something I've used much of in the past but it will be in the future.
I'll take it to a trickier water next and see how it gets on, but I genuinely cannot fault it.
Final day tomorrow 👌👍
In reply to Post #91
Only lasting 3 hours on the hair would be a major drawback on a water where you need to leave a bait out for a long time. For various reasons it's necessary on many waters. As with most things."Horses for courses".
Only lasting 3 hours on the hair would be a major drawback on a water where you need to leave a bait out for a long time. For various reasons it's necessary on many waters. As with most things."Horses for courses".
In reply to Post #92
I agree with that although it didn't really matter for me today as the rods weren't in the water that long between bites.
Now I know the breakdown time I can manage that through the day but you couldn't use them overnight not a chance.
Still I cannot fault the attractiveness of the Decathlon baits one bit for £3.49/kg.
I agree with that although it didn't really matter for me today as the rods weren't in the water that long between bites.
Now I know the breakdown time I can manage that through the day but you couldn't use them overnight not a chance.
Still I cannot fault the attractiveness of the Decathlon baits one bit for £3.49/kg.
In reply to Post #90
Gav, don't feel the need to justify what you sell, believe you me certain trolls on here would argue against your point if you were telling them you need internal organs to live.
The answer is simple, you run a business, the baits sell well, anglers demand variety, and you're trying to accommodate that service in what is in your mind the best way that sits inline with your personal beliefs.
Gav, don't feel the need to justify what you sell, believe you me certain trolls on here would argue against your point if you were telling them you need internal organs to live.
The answer is simple, you run a business, the baits sell well, anglers demand variety, and you're trying to accommodate that service in what is in your mind the best way that sits inline with your personal beliefs.
In reply to Post #72
Carp use more than just the one sense to feed and explore their environment. and lots of anglers feel brand loyalty and like to stick with one or two companies for all their bait needs. ( obviously not all before a certain person goes on about using x, y and z from a, b and c ). plus anglers all like to fish in different ways.
Now if you run a business and want to maximise your appeal to the widest variety of anglers, it seems very very obvious that you accommodate different strokes for different folks.
I never wanted to release a "nut bait" as I've always believed and still do that in 90% of boilie fishing scenarios a well crafted all season HNV fishmeal reigns supreme, however 4/5 years ago it was massively obvious the trend of nut baits wasn't going to fade out, if one bait commercially could of killed off the trend it would of been the krill every man and his dog was using, but it didn't. so I set about incorporating certain things like CPSP90, GLM and very high liver levels into a refined nut and milk protein mix, to create a compromise I was happy with. 3 years of testing and as soon as it was released I had loads more new customers buying the fishmeal - because they knew I had a nut bait if they fancied a switch. bizarre buying habits but it is what it is.
But suffice to say don't chastise the mans business decisions for not aligning perfectly with every given example, it is NOT just us our baits have to accommodate. that would be a stupid way to run a business.
Carp use more than just the one sense to feed and explore their environment. and lots of anglers feel brand loyalty and like to stick with one or two companies for all their bait needs. ( obviously not all before a certain person goes on about using x, y and z from a, b and c ). plus anglers all like to fish in different ways.
Now if you run a business and want to maximise your appeal to the widest variety of anglers, it seems very very obvious that you accommodate different strokes for different folks.
I never wanted to release a "nut bait" as I've always believed and still do that in 90% of boilie fishing scenarios a well crafted all season HNV fishmeal reigns supreme, however 4/5 years ago it was massively obvious the trend of nut baits wasn't going to fade out, if one bait commercially could of killed off the trend it would of been the krill every man and his dog was using, but it didn't. so I set about incorporating certain things like CPSP90, GLM and very high liver levels into a refined nut and milk protein mix, to create a compromise I was happy with. 3 years of testing and as soon as it was released I had loads more new customers buying the fishmeal - because they knew I had a nut bait if they fancied a switch. bizarre buying habits but it is what it is.
But suffice to say don't chastise the mans business decisions for not aligning perfectly with every given example, it is NOT just us our baits have to accommodate. that would be a stupid way to run a business.
In reply to Post #90
Absolutely no axe to grind... If I would live in UK I would already make many orders from you. I like your work and dedication. Was only talking about thread subject, aplication and different aproaches to different scenarios and turning your logic around. As we see author was again lucky to chuck it in just the right spot many times and fish as you say were either gorging on that cheap bait or were spitting it out so much that he caught many... We will never know... He had a great day and that is all that matters...
Absolutely no axe to grind... If I would live in UK I would already make many orders from you. I like your work and dedication. Was only talking about thread subject, aplication and different aproaches to different scenarios and turning your logic around. As we see author was again lucky to chuck it in just the right spot many times and fish as you say were either gorging on that cheap bait or were spitting it out so much that he caught many... We will never know... He had a great day and that is all that matters...
In reply to Post #91
Sounds like the sort of water and.old.rubbish will do tbh
Sounds like the sort of water and.old.rubbish will do tbh
In reply to Post #97
Hmmmm dont think the guy opposite me for ten hours yesterday would agree with you.
Hmmmm dont think the guy opposite me for ten hours yesterday would agree with you.
In reply to Post #98
But he was a nod
like me
But he was a nod
like me
In reply to Post #98
my first thought when i read your original post was the fish were probably moving along the far bank from one end to the other and they just hit your mate first?.
having said that, i have a mate who swears by decathlon white chocolate boilies, he's had some very decent fish on them over the years
my first thought when i read your original post was the fish were probably moving along the far bank from one end to the other and they just hit your mate first?.
having said that, i have a mate who swears by decathlon white chocolate boilies, he's had some very decent fish on them over the years
In reply to Post #100
I had probably, in terms of volume over the jubilee bank holiday between weds night and friday night one of the best sessions I've ever had on that water. It normally fishes really slowly in warm conditions but the bites kept coming.
The baits though broke down rapidly and shortly after a couple of hours there wasn't much left on the hair.
I used about 7kg with sticking freebies out aswell which I'm convinced pulled fish into my spots.
Will take it to a different water to see how it performs at the end of the month but I have to say that I was hugely impressed with it.
I had probably, in terms of volume over the jubilee bank holiday between weds night and friday night one of the best sessions I've ever had on that water. It normally fishes really slowly in warm conditions but the bites kept coming.
The baits though broke down rapidly and shortly after a couple of hours there wasn't much left on the hair.
I used about 7kg with sticking freebies out aswell which I'm convinced pulled fish into my spots.
Will take it to a different water to see how it performs at the end of the month but I have to say that I was hugely impressed with it.
In reply to Post #101
i'd be interested to hear how you get on because it's cheaper than the nash version i'm using
i'd be interested to hear how you get on because it's cheaper than the nash version i'm using
In reply to Post #98
Sorry but if your getting 12 runs in a day it's not exactly a tricky water is it?! It's one thing when a bait works at somewhere like that where the fish rely on bait to survive. It's a whole different ballgame when you take it somewhere that they don't need bait to survive
Sorry but if your getting 12 runs in a day it's not exactly a tricky water is it?! It's one thing when a bait works at somewhere like that where the fish rely on bait to survive. It's a whole different ballgame when you take it somewhere that they don't need bait to survive
In reply to Post #103
still saved a lot of money...
still saved a lot of money...
In reply to Post #104
How much is a 5kilo bag of the boilies then,I'm thinking of trying it on the canal just as a prebait for a week and then giving it a go,I'd class a canal that's got 12/14 mile between locks as fairly hard because you've got to find the fish as well
How much is a 5kilo bag of the boilies then,I'm thinking of trying it on the canal just as a prebait for a week and then giving it a go,I'd class a canal that's got 12/14 mile between locks as fairly hard because you've got to find the fish as well