In reply to Post #89
I think the reason you dont get flats on banksticks is due to how much weight it would add as the inner section would have to be made from solid bar to machine a flat onto it so they would weigh loads. You dont need a flat on a bankstick. A buzz bar you do but not on a bank stick.
I think the reason you dont get flats on banksticks is due to how much weight it would add as the inner section would have to be made from solid bar to machine a flat onto it so they would weigh loads. You dont need a flat on a bankstick. A buzz bar you do but not on a bank stick.
In reply to Post #90
When Jag released the prolite black with the carbon inner,didn't they have issues with them moving.They then changed the thumbscrews to the levers,Chub did a bankstick with a flat edge to stop twist
When Jag released the prolite black with the carbon inner,didn't they have issues with them moving.They then changed the thumbscrews to the levers,Chub did a bankstick with a flat edge to stop twist
In reply to Post #92
I don't think that's the reason they changed to levers. My thumbscrew sticks lock up solid. There were a few sticks that had an issue with not locking up on the thumbscrews as solid as they should have. But that wasn't a design fault as such. I think a few of the carbon inners were machined with a slightly small diameter and Jag replaced them with the correct sized ones for the few people that had an issue.
I've never seen the flat sided chub sticks. We're they any good?
I don't think that's the reason they changed to levers. My thumbscrew sticks lock up solid. There were a few sticks that had an issue with not locking up on the thumbscrews as solid as they should have. But that wasn't a design fault as such. I think a few of the carbon inners were machined with a slightly small diameter and Jag replaced them with the correct sized ones for the few people that had an issue.
I've never seen the flat sided chub sticks. We're they any good?
In reply to Post #93
I never owned them,I know people rated the chub stainless
I never owned them,I know people rated the chub stainless
In reply to Post #90
Have a look at Summit Tackle's banksticks, they've got flats milled onto them which stops twist.
Possibly the reason the carbon ones haven't got a flat is the head could twist off as they're glued on and not threaded.or just solid milled aluminium (don't know why the ever used carbon as it has to be joined instead of something that's of the same material gets milled from solid bar) Had a problem myself because of the gluing process they use. I've never used JAG's stainless range and would have thought they'd be threaded inners that join the heads on; I don't know if they're pinned or glued or a combination of the two? Whatever the case maybe, I'm assuming that the reason could be for no flats is they'd want the range to match one another and couldn't have the carbon ones without a flat added (because of the glued parts) and the stainless with flats.
Of it's a question of money, I mean, come on, they charge a lot for one bankstick, they can surely suffer the cost of milling a flat on a very expensive.stick? Summit aren't a lot cheaper I should add.
Yeah, I'd say it's going to be around what I've guessed. We'll see once it comes out 👍
Have a look at Summit Tackle's banksticks, they've got flats milled onto them which stops twist.
Possibly the reason the carbon ones haven't got a flat is the head could twist off as they're glued on and not threaded.or just solid milled aluminium (don't know why the ever used carbon as it has to be joined instead of something that's of the same material gets milled from solid bar) Had a problem myself because of the gluing process they use. I've never used JAG's stainless range and would have thought they'd be threaded inners that join the heads on; I don't know if they're pinned or glued or a combination of the two? Whatever the case maybe, I'm assuming that the reason could be for no flats is they'd want the range to match one another and couldn't have the carbon ones without a flat added (because of the glued parts) and the stainless with flats.
Of it's a question of money, I mean, come on, they charge a lot for one bankstick, they can surely suffer the cost of milling a flat on a very expensive.stick? Summit aren't a lot cheaper I should add.
Yeah, I'd say it's going to be around what I've guessed. We'll see once it comes out 👍
In reply to Post #95
Aren't all flat sided inners on sticks made from metal? . The mpe stuff certainly was. I'm not sure if flat sided carbon can be constructed or not. But clearly the reason jag use carbon is because of the weight . No point have a product called prolite if it isn't light 🤷♂️
Aren't all flat sided inners on sticks made from metal? . The mpe stuff certainly was. I'm not sure if flat sided carbon can be constructed or not. But clearly the reason jag use carbon is because of the weight . No point have a product called prolite if it isn't light 🤷♂️
In reply to Post #96
I think they should just ditch the whole carbon thing and be done with it. On a few carbon innered banksticks vs ally inners, it would be so negligible weight wise. If you had a 100 lb of carbon innered sticks vs ally inners, yeah, but when is that ever going to ever happen when it comes to fishing? I suppose one reason is that a carbon inner won't marr and loose paint like an ally coated one would, that could be some of the reasoning, I don't know.
This is purely speculation on my part, the inners aren't built up in layers, instead they look to me to be made by adding mashed up carbon and resin to make the bar which could be milled to some degree. If there's others out there that know about these processes, please chime in.
I think they should just ditch the whole carbon thing and be done with it. On a few carbon innered banksticks vs ally inners, it would be so negligible weight wise. If you had a 100 lb of carbon innered sticks vs ally inners, yeah, but when is that ever going to ever happen when it comes to fishing? I suppose one reason is that a carbon inner won't marr and loose paint like an ally coated one would, that could be some of the reasoning, I don't know.
This is purely speculation on my part, the inners aren't built up in layers, instead they look to me to be made by adding mashed up carbon and resin to make the bar which could be milled to some degree. If there's others out there that know about these processes, please chime in.
In reply to Post #95
Why mill a flat on if its not needed. A buzz bar yes but no need for a flat on a banstick. Ive never had a bankstick twist around in 30 years of fishing. Its easier without a flat as you can just turn in to where you want and lock it up if it had a flat on in you would have to twist the outer section when it was in the ground which would loosen the whole bankstick in the ground.
Ive had an issue with the cost of anything if i want it i buy it if i dont think its worth what there asking then i wont buy it. Ive got loads of jag 316 gear and for me its worth it.
Why mill a flat on if its not needed. A buzz bar yes but no need for a flat on a banstick. Ive never had a bankstick twist around in 30 years of fishing. Its easier without a flat as you can just turn in to where you want and lock it up if it had a flat on in you would have to twist the outer section when it was in the ground which would loosen the whole bankstick in the ground.
Ive had an issue with the cost of anything if i want it i buy it if i dont think its worth what there asking then i wont buy it. Ive got loads of jag 316 gear and for me its worth it.
In reply to Post #98
So.your rod doesn't move when you're fishing totally locked up. I want everything rock solid and no movement what-so-ever, tight, like my ladies 👌
So.your rod doesn't move when you're fishing totally locked up. I want everything rock solid and no movement what-so-ever, tight, like my ladies 👌
It would be a nice touch I'm sure but there's no point in the extra expense. A single stick and buzz bars wider than about 4” needs a stabiliser, at which point you're taking almost as much weight as a goalpost set up which is rock solid and impossible to twist/undo
In reply to Post #99
No never had that happen. As noj says if you use a single stick with buzz bars the inner will prob move due to the leverage the buzz bar puts on the little 3/8 thread but i havent seen anyone fish a single stick with buzz bars in donkeys years and no one with any sense would fish one stick with a buzz bar locked up.
No never had that happen. As noj says if you use a single stick with buzz bars the inner will prob move due to the leverage the buzz bar puts on the little 3/8 thread but i havent seen anyone fish a single stick with buzz bars in donkeys years and no one with any sense would fish one stick with a buzz bar locked up.
In reply to Post #101
I'd say 90% of my fishing is bars on a single stick. Isn't everyones?
I'd say 90% of my fishing is bars on a single stick. Isn't everyones?
In reply to Post #97
I've never had a problem with the prolite slipping or being able to tighten it up . Century chunky carbon was terrible for this. Was hard work to get it tight . The inner carbon when extended would rattle/wobble in the outer carbon . Which isn't great on a £30 bank stick. And didn't feel very secure.
My preference is for a 2 + 1 set up . Don't really have to much of and issue when fishing tight . Single s set up if I need to spread my rods out a bit
I've never had a problem with the prolite slipping or being able to tighten it up . Century chunky carbon was terrible for this. Was hard work to get it tight . The inner carbon when extended would rattle/wobble in the outer carbon . Which isn't great on a £30 bank stick. And didn't feel very secure.
My preference is for a 2 + 1 set up . Don't really have to much of and issue when fishing tight . Single s set up if I need to spread my rods out a bit
In reply to Post #102
Nope
Nope
In reply to Post #102
no
no