In reply to Post #90
Thanks for the heads up Winkler, I hadn't seen it
Thanks for the heads up Winkler, I hadn't seen it
In reply to Post #89
And there lies a potential problem if said lake has there own boilies I can't see them excepting bait for you and if it's a drive and survive there might not be facilities available for the bait to be delivered to
And there lies a potential problem if said lake has there own boilies I can't see them excepting bait for you and if it's a drive and survive there might not be facilities available for the bait to be delivered to
In reply to Post #92
I'm not sure why you wouldn't use the lake boilie and the comment re delivery wasn't really for that sort of water anyway. Yep, drive and survive it probably wouldn't be a option but the owner/lessor could make 'arrangements, otherwise it's do your homework and buy en route. There's always a work around.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't use the lake boilie and the comment re delivery wasn't really for that sort of water anyway. Yep, drive and survive it probably wouldn't be a option but the owner/lessor could make 'arrangements, otherwise it's do your homework and buy en route. There's always a work around.
In reply to Post #88
You will just have to fish abiding the rules at this uncertain time .
No need to try and warrant your reply as your making yourself sound a little silly and paranoid .
It is what it is and everybody is in the same boat I'm afraid .
Shame it's not 25 years ago when all we would use is maize and lots of it as back then they were not so paranoid on what was supposedly good for the fish .
I would happily go in this climate and get my bait from the super market and would probably outfish those with their super dooper bait .
It's not anyone's fault you have been brainwashed over the years the carp scene is very good at it .
Just try and make the best of it .
You will just have to fish abiding the rules at this uncertain time .
No need to try and warrant your reply as your making yourself sound a little silly and paranoid .
It is what it is and everybody is in the same boat I'm afraid .
Shame it's not 25 years ago when all we would use is maize and lots of it as back then they were not so paranoid on what was supposedly good for the fish .
I would happily go in this climate and get my bait from the super market and would probably outfish those with their super dooper bait .
It's not anyone's fault you have been brainwashed over the years the carp scene is very good at it .
Just try and make the best of it .
In reply to Post #95
Well it looks as though the Angling Trust have noticed the situation and they are now lobbying the Government for help with a rule change.
https://anglingtrust.net/2021/01/15/anglers-to-challenge-brexit-bait-ban/
Well it looks as though the Angling Trust have noticed the situation and they are now lobbying the Government for help with a rule change.
https://anglingtrust.net/2021/01/15/anglers-to-challenge-brexit-bait-ban/
In reply to Post #95
Totally agree. We started using particles and tiger nuts the last couple of trips to France and Italy. The results were far superior to boilies
Totally agree. We started using particles and tiger nuts the last couple of trips to France and Italy. The results were far superior to boilies
In reply to Post #97
Tigers on the Twente canal Holland was a winner 👍
Tigers on the Twente canal Holland was a winner 👍
In reply to Post #97
particles etc are brilliant, but if every man and his dog are using them on a lake, it wont last.
particles etc are brilliant, but if every man and his dog are using them on a lake, it wont last.
In reply to Post #96
All well and good but this decision rests with the EU - who the UK are not longer part of.
Good luck to the Angling Trust trying to lobby the EU - I'm sure they'll sit up and pay serious attention - LOL
Honestly - The fall-out from Brexit is and will continue to be a massive sh*tshow. It was never going to be anything else.
All well and good but this decision rests with the EU - who the UK are not longer part of.
Good luck to the Angling Trust trying to lobby the EU - I'm sure they'll sit up and pay serious attention - LOL
Honestly - The fall-out from Brexit is and will continue to be a massive sh*tshow. It was never going to be anything else.
In reply to Post #99
Hi Josh
Sorry, but I disagree
Totally depends on the size of the water and what you're trying to achieve using particles.
Using 3,4 or even 5 different flavoured particles on large euro waters will keep them interested in certain areas and not feed them off. 200 different flavoured kilos a week on some of the inland seas is far from uncommon and also very productive.
Longevity of the concept boils down to how often the angler is prepared to change the flavour mixes (in my opinion with the seasons)
Best
Jon
Hi Josh
Sorry, but I disagree
Totally depends on the size of the water and what you're trying to achieve using particles.
Using 3,4 or even 5 different flavoured particles on large euro waters will keep them interested in certain areas and not feed them off. 200 different flavoured kilos a week on some of the inland seas is far from uncommon and also very productive.
Longevity of the concept boils down to how often the angler is prepared to change the flavour mixes (in my opinion with the seasons)
Best
Jon
In reply to Post #101
certainly no need to apologise mate.
i was referring to smaller lakes, not the huge expanse of waters you refer too.
the lake i fish ...20 odd acres, 100 odd fish 8 anglers, 30 kg particle each, week in week out...i wouldnt fancy it personally.
dont think the carp would benefit much either
certainly no need to apologise mate.
i was referring to smaller lakes, not the huge expanse of waters you refer too.
the lake i fish ...20 odd acres, 100 odd fish 8 anglers, 30 kg particle each, week in week out...i wouldnt fancy it personally.
dont think the carp would benefit much either
In reply to Post #102
Hi Josh
I think the concept is still applicable, if your using say 30kg on a week session on a 20 acre lake (scale it up scale it down) 5kg peach, 5kg chili, 5kg salted caramel, 5 peanut butter mixes etc mixed up you can keep them in one area guessing and testing which doesn't happen with 20kg of cell. They feed and f off on that stuff
It's just a concept that's always worked for me and one the bait companies don't seem to like, the one bait suits all policy and all
Best
Jon
Hi Josh
I think the concept is still applicable, if your using say 30kg on a week session on a 20 acre lake (scale it up scale it down) 5kg peach, 5kg chili, 5kg salted caramel, 5 peanut butter mixes etc mixed up you can keep them in one area guessing and testing which doesn't happen with 20kg of cell. They feed and f off on that stuff
It's just a concept that's always worked for me and one the bait companies don't seem to like, the one bait suits all policy and all
Best
Jon
In reply to Post #103
fair point mate.
i do like the fact when turning up to said smaller venue that boillies are cleaned out by the crays and poison chats, un like particle where they dont seem quite as keen on particle as opposed to boillies. clean plate an all
Plus ive never found that particles take on flavours that well...i will admit ive not overly tried as ive always liked particles to not smell of boillies
but we have gone slightly off topic
stay safe mate
fair point mate.
i do like the fact when turning up to said smaller venue that boillies are cleaned out by the crays and poison chats, un like particle where they dont seem quite as keen on particle as opposed to boillies. clean plate an all
Plus ive never found that particles take on flavours that well...i will admit ive not overly tried as ive always liked particles to not smell of boillies
but we have gone slightly off topic
stay safe mate
In reply to Post #100
I emailed Sticky & BAF about whether they'd still be shipping bait to EU tackle shops / customers AND asked Angling Direct if they'd still be supplying bait (even a tub of pop ups) mail order.
Sticky and BAF were both pausing supply until they'd worked out the admin and cost implications - a lot of new hoops to jump through. And Angling Direct were stopping supply altogether.
A few points:
- Bait is the smallest piece of this jigsaw, most UK food exporters (fish/dairy/meat) having a nightmare.
- Nightmare caused by Boris's deal which is a long way from 'friction free trade' (I own a company that imports UK goods)
- I've lived in NL since 92 and (at the risk of upsetting the locals) - UK bait (Sticky/Baitworks/DNA)is (generally) far better.
- Particles, Frolic, Pellets (Coppens), Boilies - all readily available across EU - no worries for public, club waters & rivers.
- UK owned French commercial venues often have particle bans - unless you buy from owners.
- As has been said, the Dutch sarnie scandal was down to the lack of freight traffic, you'd be unlucky to have 50kg of Atlantic Heat / Cell / S7 / Krill confiscated at Customs.
- Solution would be for CC Moore/Dynamite/Mainline/DNA/Baitworks etc. to set up their own manufacturing plant in EU or let an established company make them under license - ala Heineken is brewed in UK under license.
Hope it helps
I emailed Sticky & BAF about whether they'd still be shipping bait to EU tackle shops / customers AND asked Angling Direct if they'd still be supplying bait (even a tub of pop ups) mail order.
Sticky and BAF were both pausing supply until they'd worked out the admin and cost implications - a lot of new hoops to jump through. And Angling Direct were stopping supply altogether.
A few points:
- Bait is the smallest piece of this jigsaw, most UK food exporters (fish/dairy/meat) having a nightmare.
- Nightmare caused by Boris's deal which is a long way from 'friction free trade' (I own a company that imports UK goods)
- I've lived in NL since 92 and (at the risk of upsetting the locals) - UK bait (Sticky/Baitworks/DNA)is (generally) far better.
- Particles, Frolic, Pellets (Coppens), Boilies - all readily available across EU - no worries for public, club waters & rivers.
- UK owned French commercial venues often have particle bans - unless you buy from owners.
- As has been said, the Dutch sarnie scandal was down to the lack of freight traffic, you'd be unlucky to have 50kg of Atlantic Heat / Cell / S7 / Krill confiscated at Customs.
- Solution would be for CC Moore/Dynamite/Mainline/DNA/Baitworks etc. to set up their own manufacturing plant in EU or let an established company make them under license - ala Heineken is brewed in UK under license.
Hope it helps