In reply to Post #82
The jag rod lockers definitely come close, if not doing as good a job. And they are neater, more compact, and in my opinion look better. And if those are £15 each, id rather pay the extra for the jag offering
The jag rod lockers definitely come close, if not doing as good a job. And they are neater, more compact, and in my opinion look better. And if those are £15 each, id rather pay the extra for the jag offering
I was using the jag lockdown rests, when snag fishing using heavy braid - really good.
The only problem I had, is the little rubber coloured bit which slots into the back, all 3 of mine fell off - but that doesn't stop it being used, and you can replace them.
The only problem I had, is the little rubber coloured bit which slots into the back, all 3 of mine fell off - but that doesn't stop it being used, and you can replace them.
In reply to Post #91
Absolutely agree
Absolutely agree
I use the larger Nash rod locks, I prefer them to others as I use different rods on different lakes and they adjust to whatever size rod you're using. They're also great for keeping the rods locked in.
Way before the Bungee and Jag rod lockers I had my own made when I started fishing Rainbow 2007/08, I had one trip and was looking at how everyone was tying down their rods with bungee cords,rope, pegs etc so came up with these, over 60 weeks fished at rainbow and many more at other lakes snag fishing and never once had a rod move.
The ESP grip stops the rod sliding forward the 12" crook which tightens to the position of the rod stops the butt flipping, when you get a take the tip pulls down under compression and the rod just tremors until you pick it up
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The ESP grip stops the rod sliding forward the 12" crook which tightens to the position of the rod stops the butt flipping, when you get a take the tip pulls down under compression and the rod just tremors until you pick it up
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In reply to Post #95
Genius and absolutely spot on for rainbow and the like (I would imagine as not fished there' but for me in the uk bungees are not the way forward (I like your version of the arm)
Any form of rod locker would kill me, on the take I'd forget every time. I will always (not just snag fishing) place the butt ring against the buzzer with a tight ish grip. The trouble for me is not losing the rod should be the second consideration to fishing safely. Sat behind 3 rods on locks on UK waters sounds ridiculous to me and not great angling. I would assume to be of use they require a tight clutch and tight line - ok if the snags are bang in front of you but pointless if to the side as the kite will take you into snags.
If fishing at range stretch will take you in the snags. Maybe one rod in the day, but a set of three? It would cost you more fish than it would save IMO
like I say Rainbow type fishing I can understand as essentially you are probably gonna land by boat, so using strong tackle you are stopping them whilst you prepare the next bound bound battle and they won't be too far into the snags.
As for the numpties I see with these on standard buzzer bars or pods - or using at night when tucked in a bivvie - it does make me wonder!
It's not that far removed from static line fishing cast rig - tie mainline to a tree, pop back in the morning and see if you've had a bite.
Fishing for bites or for the look
Genius and absolutely spot on for rainbow and the like (I would imagine as not fished there' but for me in the uk bungees are not the way forward (I like your version of the arm)
Any form of rod locker would kill me, on the take I'd forget every time. I will always (not just snag fishing) place the butt ring against the buzzer with a tight ish grip. The trouble for me is not losing the rod should be the second consideration to fishing safely. Sat behind 3 rods on locks on UK waters sounds ridiculous to me and not great angling. I would assume to be of use they require a tight clutch and tight line - ok if the snags are bang in front of you but pointless if to the side as the kite will take you into snags.
If fishing at range stretch will take you in the snags. Maybe one rod in the day, but a set of three? It would cost you more fish than it would save IMO
like I say Rainbow type fishing I can understand as essentially you are probably gonna land by boat, so using strong tackle you are stopping them whilst you prepare the next bound bound battle and they won't be too far into the snags.
As for the numpties I see with these on standard buzzer bars or pods - or using at night when tucked in a bivvie - it does make me wonder!
It's not that far removed from static line fishing cast rig - tie mainline to a tree, pop back in the morning and see if you've had a bite.
Fishing for bites or for the look
In reply to Post #96
They're also perfect for barbel fishing the rivers with the tips pointing skyward
They're also perfect for barbel fishing the rivers with the tips pointing skyward
In reply to Post #96
So you effectively lock your rod in, with the butt ring behind the alarm, yet having a device designed specifically for the purpose of holding the rod in place is bad angling? Not sure what the difference is to be honest. Unless you mean not being aware enough of what you are doing to disengage said device, in which case, you probably shouldnt be fishing snags in the first place
And not sure many would be fishing all 3 rods to a snag, the reason for having 3 is you are covered on all rods, no matter which is on a snag. And even i they were, its more than possible for a competent angler
So you effectively lock your rod in, with the butt ring behind the alarm, yet having a device designed specifically for the purpose of holding the rod in place is bad angling? Not sure what the difference is to be honest. Unless you mean not being aware enough of what you are doing to disengage said device, in which case, you probably shouldnt be fishing snags in the first place
And not sure many would be fishing all 3 rods to a snag, the reason for having 3 is you are covered on all rods, no matter which is on a snag. And even i they were, its more than possible for a competent angler
In reply to Post #91
Completely agree I would pay the extra
Completely agree I would pay the extra
In reply to Post #97
Exactly on the trent couple of years ago I heard a couple of swims down stream of me on a bend a guy screaming and shouting just after first light when a fast moving boat came close to the bank caught both his lines and dragged both his rods in it turned out he was inside the back of his van taking a dump if he had the bungy`s on probably just emptied the spools and he would still have his rods dont know if he got them back
Exactly on the trent couple of years ago I heard a couple of swims down stream of me on a bend a guy screaming and shouting just after first light when a fast moving boat came close to the bank caught both his lines and dragged both his rods in it turned out he was inside the back of his van taking a dump if he had the bungy`s on probably just emptied the spools and he would still have his rods dont know if he got them back
In reply to Post #98
Unsure if you are deliberately being silly or not?
I always even open water fish my butt rings in front of the alarm as being a safe guard and decent rubber lock butt rests. 50 years fishing and never had a rod go in. But you and the like are suggesting bungeeing down rods - rainbow style for three rods on the local water whilst camping and sleeping. Wow - just wow. Safe snag fishing isn't about keeping your rod, it's about fishing safely - and being aware and close enough to actually stand a chance.
Unsure if you are deliberately being silly or not?
I always even open water fish my butt rings in front of the alarm as being a safe guard and decent rubber lock butt rests. 50 years fishing and never had a rod go in. But you and the like are suggesting bungeeing down rods - rainbow style for three rods on the local water whilst camping and sleeping. Wow - just wow. Safe snag fishing isn't about keeping your rod, it's about fishing safely - and being aware and close enough to actually stand a chance.
In reply to Post #101
Must be silly to have a differing opinion to you eh
The location of a water is irrelevant for a start. Im unsure at to why you feel fishing locked up at whatever range, line around islands and what not, on rainbow is ok, but to do it in the uk is so wrong.
Fishing locked up isnt to stop the rod being lost, its to stop the fish getting into a snag with rig, line etc. the rod not being lost or moved, also prevents this.
And you can be asleep whilst being close to your rods. Im not condoning being far from the rods, but im sure you dont reel in whenever you need a piss. Its about being sensible.
If a fish can make it into a snag through the line stretch, you are too close to the snag, and being on top of the rod isnt stopping it getting in there. Fishing snags sensibly is the main thing.
My one click “bungie” release, take milliseconds extra to release. It prevents the rod going in, therefore preventing the fish gaining any ground. Now if we are suggesting that using a rod and line to stop a fish getting where we dont want it to go, what do you do when you hook one?
Must be silly to have a differing opinion to you eh
The location of a water is irrelevant for a start. Im unsure at to why you feel fishing locked up at whatever range, line around islands and what not, on rainbow is ok, but to do it in the uk is so wrong.
Fishing locked up isnt to stop the rod being lost, its to stop the fish getting into a snag with rig, line etc. the rod not being lost or moved, also prevents this.
And you can be asleep whilst being close to your rods. Im not condoning being far from the rods, but im sure you dont reel in whenever you need a piss. Its about being sensible.
If a fish can make it into a snag through the line stretch, you are too close to the snag, and being on top of the rod isnt stopping it getting in there. Fishing snags sensibly is the main thing.
My one click “bungie” release, take milliseconds extra to release. It prevents the rod going in, therefore preventing the fish gaining any ground. Now if we are suggesting that using a rod and line to stop a fish getting where we dont want it to go, what do you do when you hook one?
In reply to Post #102
You can wear an inflatable suit or learn to cross a road - I prefer the later but all about personal opinions and standards - tight lines
You can wear an inflatable suit or learn to cross a road - I prefer the later but all about personal opinions and standards - tight lines
In reply to Post #103
Maybe jump off the high horse for a while, and rather than refer to people as silly, or as numpties, because they are doing something you don't understand, try and open your mind to the fact that there are ways of doing things, that may be just as effective as the way you chose to do them, maybe better in some cases, that aren't wrong, or unsafe, just different.
Maybe jump off the high horse for a while, and rather than refer to people as silly, or as numpties, because they are doing something you don't understand, try and open your mind to the fact that there are ways of doing things, that may be just as effective as the way you chose to do them, maybe better in some cases, that aren't wrong, or unsafe, just different.
In reply to Post #82
Interesting to see how you have that set up Gerry.
I would say that's the wrong way to have it, and I notice Eric has it the same too.
Mine are set up so that the LONGER length of elastic is on the quick release side of the aluminium plate.
When I stumble out the back of the van at the river to get a run, it's easier to grab 3" or more of hanging elastic cord and yank it than it is to locate the little nylon ball to pop it out.
It might not look as neat, but the only spectators I've ever had at the river are cows and ponies
Interesting to see how you have that set up Gerry.
I would say that's the wrong way to have it, and I notice Eric has it the same too.
Mine are set up so that the LONGER length of elastic is on the quick release side of the aluminium plate.
When I stumble out the back of the van at the river to get a run, it's easier to grab 3" or more of hanging elastic cord and yank it than it is to locate the little nylon ball to pop it out.
It might not look as neat, but the only spectators I've ever had at the river are cows and ponies