In reply to Post #87
Hi Dean, apologies, sometimes due to a combination of posting from phone and forum functionality it can be a challenge posting in a concise and understandable manner.

So if we start with the premise that the US wanted to garner public opinion in support of war, why do the buildings, including 7, need to be brought down by controlled demolition? surely the planes hitting them would be enough to gain the required outrage from the public? It seems illogical to me that they would need to bring them down? not to mention it makes the whole conspiracy more likely to be uncovered with the extra complexity and people involved?

In reply to Post #88
I'm tempted to tell you to go back and read my posts as research...

I challenged a few of the things from the videos - the church stuff and the fact that some of her statements are just incorrect, but my actual question was about organ donation.

In video 1 (i think) she says about it being a compulsory thing now and then likens that to Hitler and the Nazis without any expanding on it at all - my point was that we now have a system here where our organs can be taken after our death unless you choose to opt out which is a (in simple terms) reversal of what we had where you had to 'opt in' to the donation system.

I think it's a positive given that for so many years people missed out on life saving transplants when thousands of potentially valuable organs simply 'went to waste' (for want of a better term).

I know that some have their own objections to it on different grounds and that is fine as they can say 'no thankyou'. A million miles away from the atrocities of the Nazis....

So - I asked what is your stand on it? Positive / negative / fascism / humanitarian?

Edit - hope the skipping is going well - let me know when it's full and I'll send the lads round to see if there's anything worth taking...

The thing I find strange with the building 7 thing is it was a 47-story office tower that fell at freefall speed because of a fire, that's unprecedented before or since. We all remember the Grenfell tragedy and that building is still standing, well it was when I went past last year.

And the Empire State Building B-25 crash in 1945 in which a B-25 Mitchell bomber, piloted in thick fog over New York City crashed into the Empire State Building and that's still standing and there was a huge fire after that one, a much bigger fire than building seven, after all it was a B-25.
There's photos of this on the net

I find the whole building 7 thing really strange indeed and I don't know what really happened but I do not believe the official story simply for how fast it fell into its own footprint because of a fire.

In reply to Post #92
She doesn't say it's compulsory though Mal. She says you have to say no to it.

In reply to Post #94
Sorry I was being bombarded with bullsh*t and misheard.

Still the same question though. It's hardly Nazi is it? And what's her issue with it?

The truth is out there .

In reply to Post #92
I now feel your pain Mal having watched just the first two videos, this womans presenting style is awful, I guess it's aimed at dumb Americans.
The first video, pretty much everything she stated as having not been reported has in fact been well reported. The second video, there are plenty of studies that show the benefits of flouride to dental health.

In reply to Post #97
Wait until you get to the lovely casual racisms of number 3....

This is where so much of what might be a good point of discussion for conspiracy theory immediately falls down. The 'sources' are so appalling. As I say, if there is better out there then point me to it because this stuff just makes dismissal the only option.

It's like having an adulterous, lying buffoon as the spokesman for your country.

Oh.... hang on.....

In reply to Post #98
OK so admittedly I skipped to 5 and then 9 &10 as it's a narrative I've heard time and time again, just this time instead of christ or Allah being the saviour it seems it's trump, and his clumsy ways are in fact messages to his Q Anon followers, that's some funny sh#t

In reply to Post #96
No it's not

Rule number 1. Never believe everything you hear or should is say read. You need the facts

I've read quite a bit on psychology because it fascinates me. Your map is not the territory lol

If you start to look at media, the resource where we get our information from it is completely biased to our or your countries Believes conditioning

Watch the TV on a daily basis and the evening news will start with doom and gloom because that's what we want to hear. Occasionally there might be a bit of positive inspiration and it sticks out like a sore thumb, watch out for it

And then it's soap time, the worlds, doom and gloom and bull****

Life can be viewed as **** if you want it to be (it's how you make it) and they like to portray this, nobody is really interested in positives, they want to know that their lives are not as bad as others

Hence media is set up to portray this.

What would happen if we were told nice story's all the time and everything was amazing

To summarise, conspiracies are rife, it's life, there will be some serious goings on behind the scens!!!

We know what we NEED to know and that's what gets published...

Don't get me going on religion, people need to believe, how would you control the masses

In reply to Post #99
Cheers Tom. Saved me a few hours watching it tonight

Guys, what do think happened to Carole Baskins old man ?

In reply to Post #103


Now that's a classic

Finished watching that last night. Now that's a conspiracy theory and set up if ever people have seen one. You have to love Americans, ****ing crackers

In reply to Post #103
This bloke has an opinion on Carol Baskin, he makes it really well in two mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o2VdRtrxjM