I stand by the casting comment. When I was a kid I spent a few hours a week one summer holiday practicing on a field, accuracy and distance came easily after an hour or two and I can still do it now even if I haven't picked a rod up for months. Some people go on like it's some skill that takes a life time to learn, it doesn't - you can get good enough for 95%+ situations in a few hours.
In reply to Post #75
old thread but here is my ten pence worth...
A rod & reel or Pole is what makes a angler a angler.
A boat with sonar is what makes a trawler man a trawler man.
using a bait boat is not angling it just trawler fishing but without the net.
old thread but here is my ten pence worth...
A rod & reel or Pole is what makes a angler a angler.
A boat with sonar is what makes a trawler man a trawler man.
using a bait boat is not angling it just trawler fishing but without the net.
In reply to Post #92
using a bait boat is not angling
But they do help when have severe arthritis in your shoulders which severely inhibits casting.
using a bait boat is not angling
But they do help when have severe arthritis in your shoulders which severely inhibits casting.
In reply to Post #93
having disability is a completely different kettle of fish but at the same time if your fit enough to load & unload your car walk with all your tackle to the lake and set up then surely casting you rods out is achievable? surely all of the above does more damage to your shoulders than casting?
having disability is a completely different kettle of fish but at the same time if your fit enough to load & unload your car walk with all your tackle to the lake and set up then surely casting you rods out is achievable? surely all of the above does more damage to your shoulders than casting?
In reply to Post #92
Utter tosh
Utter tosh
In reply to Post #95
The last lake I fished a bait boat made a massive difference as spodding at the 125 yards required scared the fish off (pre spomb days). I bought a boat for this simple reason. I had no problem casting the distance, but people on either side of me with bait boats had a definite advantage. Until Mark Hutchinson rocked up I was spodding 20 yards further than anyone else at Horseshoe, so I am far from lacking casting ability.
All this talk of them removing skill is relative. How many build their own rods, or even their own leads these days? I still make my own leads, but haven't built a rod for 30 years. Most modern carpers have never done either, so are they considered lacking in skill.
There are muppets that use bait boats, but there are also plenty that don't.
The last lake I fished a bait boat made a massive difference as spodding at the 125 yards required scared the fish off (pre spomb days). I bought a boat for this simple reason. I had no problem casting the distance, but people on either side of me with bait boats had a definite advantage. Until Mark Hutchinson rocked up I was spodding 20 yards further than anyone else at Horseshoe, so I am far from lacking casting ability.
All this talk of them removing skill is relative. How many build their own rods, or even their own leads these days? I still make my own leads, but haven't built a rod for 30 years. Most modern carpers have never done either, so are they considered lacking in skill.
There are muppets that use bait boats, but there are also plenty that don't.
In reply to Post #96
There are muppets that use bait boats, but there are also plenty that don't.
Absolutely, it's not all just about dropping the rig 20 yards away under a bush on a runs water, don't forget even Terry Hearn uses one when necessary
There are muppets that use bait boats, but there are also plenty that don't.
Absolutely, it's not all just about dropping the rig 20 yards away under a bush on a runs water, don't forget even Terry Hearn uses one when necessary
In reply to Post #97
An actual situation.
Angler 1 - identifies the carps patrol route, a weedy area they like to be, rows to the island when there is no one about rakes the spot of weed and baits it every day for a week with the boat, and fishes and catches a big fish.
Angler 2 - waits in the car park Sunday lunchtime punishing weekend anglers..... drops in the going swim and fires out 3 cast them anywhere chods and also catches a big fish.
The plaudits go to Angler 2 for not using a boat.
An actual situation.
Angler 1 - identifies the carps patrol route, a weedy area they like to be, rows to the island when there is no one about rakes the spot of weed and baits it every day for a week with the boat, and fishes and catches a big fish.
Angler 2 - waits in the car park Sunday lunchtime punishing weekend anglers..... drops in the going swim and fires out 3 cast them anywhere chods and also catches a big fish.
The plaudits go to Angler 2 for not using a boat.
In reply to Post #98
exactly, also where is the line drawn between using a bait boat with a sonar, having to read the screen and judge the best spots to fish from the bank, against going out in a boat with the same sonar, then being able to use a scope so you can actually see the bottom and drop your rig on the spot while watching it land, now one scenario your considered to be cheating but the other one is 'carpy'
exactly, also where is the line drawn between using a bait boat with a sonar, having to read the screen and judge the best spots to fish from the bank, against going out in a boat with the same sonar, then being able to use a scope so you can actually see the bottom and drop your rig on the spot while watching it land, now one scenario your considered to be cheating but the other one is 'carpy'
In reply to Post #97
One of the finest carp in the land has been caught a few times with the use of a bait boat by very good anglers.
Never see it mentioned in the catch report but personally I dont think it detracts from the capture at all.
All about the context...
One of the finest carp in the land has been caught a few times with the use of a bait boat by very good anglers.
Never see it mentioned in the catch report but personally I dont think it detracts from the capture at all.
All about the context...
In reply to Post #95
The literal definition of angler "a person who fishes with a rod and line."
using a bait boat a rod is not needed, don't get my words twisted using a bait boat your still fishing but your not angling.
you ever seen an anglerfish with it little bait boat luring prey to their death no it uses a fleshy appendage with a lure.
The literal definition of angler "a person who fishes with a rod and line."
using a bait boat a rod is not needed, don't get my words twisted using a bait boat your still fishing but your not angling.
you ever seen an anglerfish with it little bait boat luring prey to their death no it uses a fleshy appendage with a lure.
In reply to Post #101
using a bait boat a rod is not needed
what do you do then handline the ****ers in, think you are getting confused with crab fishing
using a bait boat a rod is not needed
what do you do then handline the ****ers in, think you are getting confused with crab fishing
In reply to Post #102
well you don't need a rod do you? you can fish as far as your receiver and transmitter will allow with nothing more than a spool of line and a hook.
well you don't need a rod do you? you can fish as far as your receiver and transmitter will allow with nothing more than a spool of line and a hook.
In reply to Post #103
Good luck with that.....
Good luck with that.....
In reply to Post #104
are you ok?
are you ok?