In reply to Post #994
Not bitter...just applying the law that we were part of making when we were in the EU. I think that the French have been very lax in implementing the rule of law regarding bait and long may it continue.
Not bitter...just applying the law that we were part of making when we were in the EU. I think that the French have been very lax in implementing the rule of law regarding bait and long may it continue.
In reply to Post #1000
I went out via coach on 24th, there were 29 of us on the coach, we were inspected and they X-rayed some of our baggage, did nothing about the half a ton of boilies that was on there
I went out via coach on 24th, there were 29 of us on the coach, we were inspected and they X-rayed some of our baggage, did nothing about the half a ton of boilies that was on there
In reply to Post #1002
The French seem to be bitter about fishing in Jersey's waters. Also accused of stealing 5 million vaccines.
Anyway this is a fishing forum so we talk about fishing and taking bait into the EU, which is a pain. But there's more to Brexit than that.
Brexit is only 9 months old, it's a long term thing and they'll be plenty of twists and turns along the way for a few more years yet. It used to be discussed in the Non Carp section but along with other topics that got far too political it got pulled.
Anyway back to fishing, taking bait into the EU is a pain but it's not the end of the world for most people.
The French seem to be bitter about fishing in Jersey's waters. Also accused of stealing 5 million vaccines.
Anyway this is a fishing forum so we talk about fishing and taking bait into the EU, which is a pain. But there's more to Brexit than that.
Brexit is only 9 months old, it's a long term thing and they'll be plenty of twists and turns along the way for a few more years yet. It used to be discussed in the Non Carp section but along with other topics that got far too political it got pulled.
Anyway back to fishing, taking bait into the EU is a pain but it's not the end of the world for most people.
In reply to Post #1003
Agreed , to many people with the intelligence of having a mouse and Google and try and look clever .
I went with bait , not masses , but enough . I got stopped both ways , but it was jovial stuff , and the smell of the landing net / unhooking mat made the return search a short one . The paperwork was waived aside , and all I got was have a nice vacation . As always in life if you are pleasant and polite it's normally returned .
Because I was traveling alone there was more attitude from the British custom's returning , but again they have a job to do.
Agreed , to many people with the intelligence of having a mouse and Google and try and look clever .
I went with bait , not masses , but enough . I got stopped both ways , but it was jovial stuff , and the smell of the landing net / unhooking mat made the return search a short one . The paperwork was waived aside , and all I got was have a nice vacation . As always in life if you are pleasant and polite it's normally returned .
Because I was traveling alone there was more attitude from the British custom's returning , but again they have a job to do.
In reply to Post #1004
Ignoring the first sentence of your post, I generally agree.
Your real example demonstrates the application of common sense and how it should be. However, if you had the bait confiscated (entirely legal enforcement by the French) would you be demonstrating the same attitude?
My original post was made in response to a post that asserted the French were being "Bitter" in espect of an earlier post example where bait had been confiscated. Such a position is wrong.
It is a failure to point out and correct such misrepresentations and twisting of the facts that led us to the position that the UK now finds itself in.
Ignoring the first sentence of your post, I generally agree.
Your real example demonstrates the application of common sense and how it should be. However, if you had the bait confiscated (entirely legal enforcement by the French) would you be demonstrating the same attitude?
My original post was made in response to a post that asserted the French were being "Bitter" in espect of an earlier post example where bait had been confiscated. Such a position is wrong.
It is a failure to point out and correct such misrepresentations and twisting of the facts that led us to the position that the UK now finds itself in.
In reply to Post #1006
in my ignornce...before we joined the EU, the rules re food and bit was exactly the same...so we've left...and rules get reversed?
same as before then...whats the drama????
in my ignornce...before we joined the EU, the rules re food and bit was exactly the same...so we've left...and rules get reversed?
same as before then...whats the drama????
In reply to Post #1007
Again, factually incorrect. but let's not get started on a history and development of Anglo European customs relationships dating back to the mid 70's
the Drama was that somebody was complaining about bait being confiscated as being the French being "bitter". Factually incorrect as is your post.
Again, factually incorrect. but let's not get started on a history and development of Anglo European customs relationships dating back to the mid 70's
the Drama was that somebody was complaining about bait being confiscated as being the French being "bitter". Factually incorrect as is your post.
In reply to Post #1007
or put it this way...
Had Richard Walker loaded his Morris Traveler or Bedford Van in 1972 with boilies (assuming they were available then, which they were not), or indeed sweetcorn, par boiled potatoes, worms etc, and made his way to France to catch some french Wackers, his bait transportation would have been entirely legal.
Only from January 2021 has it been illegal to take bait (as we now know it) to Europe for the first time in recent history (post 2nd world war) (ignoring bait based on cooked meats, which prior to the UK joining the common market in the mid 70's would not have been permitted).
So your wrong I am afraid.
or put it this way...
Had Richard Walker loaded his Morris Traveler or Bedford Van in 1972 with boilies (assuming they were available then, which they were not), or indeed sweetcorn, par boiled potatoes, worms etc, and made his way to France to catch some french Wackers, his bait transportation would have been entirely legal.
Only from January 2021 has it been illegal to take bait (as we now know it) to Europe for the first time in recent history (post 2nd world war) (ignoring bait based on cooked meats, which prior to the UK joining the common market in the mid 70's would not have been permitted).
So your wrong I am afraid.
I don't know about bitter but the French can be a stroppy lot of do as you likey's as far as I'm concerned.
They are not shy when it comes to blockades, protests etc. I can't say I blame them, pity we are not like sometimes, we used to be but those days have gone.
Let's put it this way would we threaten the French with power cuts if our demands are not met? Not that we have that capability but id we did we wouldn't anyway, the media would be in uproar.
Nor would we escort dinghies to French waters because the French wouldn't be there to meet them.
They are not shy when it comes to blockades, protests etc. I can't say I blame them, pity we are not like sometimes, we used to be but those days have gone.
Let's put it this way would we threaten the French with power cuts if our demands are not met? Not that we have that capability but id we did we wouldn't anyway, the media would be in uproar.
Nor would we escort dinghies to French waters because the French wouldn't be there to meet them.
In reply to Post #1011
But how many wish you would? 😉
But how many wish you would? 😉
In reply to Post #1008
as stated...
my ignorance on the subject
not much to get hung up about
as stated...
my ignorance on the subject
not much to get hung up about
In reply to Post #1014
Well, that rather depends from whose perspective.
Take for example a British owner of a carp lake in France, who for example purchased his boillies from one of the numerous UK bait suppliers. Let's assume he paid say £5/Kilo because he brought in Bulk. Say 2 or 3 times a year.
He sold that bait to his punters for sat 10euros a kilo. They paid for convenience, he made a bit of an income, probably not an inconsiderable amount a year.
Now he can't. He has to find an alternative source in Europe for his bait. probably has to pay more. No doubt passing it on to his customers.
Just one example of one small thing which you don't consider major having a greater impact on somebody else. There are numerous other examples. (For example it is now reasonably difficult for UK citizen to purchase a lake in France and start a carp fishing business).
When you add up all the "small things" we have lost it actually comes to a significant detrimental sum. I am yet to see any tangible benefits.
Well, that rather depends from whose perspective.
Take for example a British owner of a carp lake in France, who for example purchased his boillies from one of the numerous UK bait suppliers. Let's assume he paid say £5/Kilo because he brought in Bulk. Say 2 or 3 times a year.
He sold that bait to his punters for sat 10euros a kilo. They paid for convenience, he made a bit of an income, probably not an inconsiderable amount a year.
Now he can't. He has to find an alternative source in Europe for his bait. probably has to pay more. No doubt passing it on to his customers.
Just one example of one small thing which you don't consider major having a greater impact on somebody else. There are numerous other examples. (For example it is now reasonably difficult for UK citizen to purchase a lake in France and start a carp fishing business).
When you add up all the "small things" we have lost it actually comes to a significant detrimental sum. I am yet to see any tangible benefits.
In reply to Post #1014
Agreed not worth getting hung up about.
Brexit must be difficult for lake owners all year round, but for the angler who goes once or twice a year it's an irritation. Either take bait and run the risk of losing it, or source it over there, it's down to the individual.
Agreed not worth getting hung up about.
Brexit must be difficult for lake owners all year round, but for the angler who goes once or twice a year it's an irritation. Either take bait and run the risk of losing it, or source it over there, it's down to the individual.
In reply to Post #1015
But the French are not bitter at all
:-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58894876
"We'll create as much disruption as we can, by blocking the things Britain needs the most," he said.
Since they became a republic there default position for anything is to stop and protest. I personally was against Brexit but many people forget Europe had a chance to change and avoid a British referendum but chose not too.
But the French are not bitter at all
:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58894876
"We'll create as much disruption as we can, by blocking the things Britain needs the most," he said.
Since they became a republic there default position for anything is to stop and protest. I personally was against Brexit but many people forget Europe had a chance to change and avoid a British referendum but chose not too.
In reply to Post #1017
My mate lives and works in France , and he said that there are a lot of slings and arrows being directed at us , to make political gains ? , almost certainly , as we would and do if the Wellington boot was on the other foot as it's all part of the game .
If my bait was taken ? , Yes my attitude would be a shrug of my shoulders , as I know the law , and it was a gamble . Knowing I could go to shops to pick more up made it worth taking , as although it's wrong , it's not cocaine or a body in my rod holdall .
My mate lives and works in France , and he said that there are a lot of slings and arrows being directed at us , to make political gains ? , almost certainly , as we would and do if the Wellington boot was on the other foot as it's all part of the game .
If my bait was taken ? , Yes my attitude would be a shrug of my shoulders , as I know the law , and it was a gamble . Knowing I could go to shops to pick more up made it worth taking , as although it's wrong , it's not cocaine or a body in my rod holdall .