In reply to Post #70
And again, you appear to be the aggressor in that thread. It's funny how the common denominator in threads that deteriorate is you!
And again, you appear to be the aggressor in that thread. It's funny how the common denominator in threads that deteriorate is you!
In reply to Post #74
No one said it isn't fake but it's not a representation of his or any other employed angler's actual fishing. It's an engineered situation to try and ensure content is created instead of a business paying 2/3 people and not generating content.
My point is, the guy said sponsored anglers get preferential treatment and gave this specific example but it isn't what happens to them all the time in their angling.
No one said it isn't fake but it's not a representation of his or any other employed angler's actual fishing. It's an engineered situation to try and ensure content is created instead of a business paying 2/3 people and not generating content.
My point is, the guy said sponsored anglers get preferential treatment and gave this specific example but it isn't what happens to them all the time in their angling.
In reply to Post #75
You gave the example that on this syndi a swim had been closed off and baited for a fortnight for him for filming. Then said you proved sponsored anglers get preferential treatment like your example is how he fishes all the time, which simply isn't true in the slightest. You proved nothing apart from what everyone already knows when it comes to most angling content creation.
My point being you tried to use an example of something that doesn't represent his normal angling, to say that “famous” anglers get preferential treatment all the time.
You should have used the example of actually getting tickets to lakes, that's where they bypass waiting lists a lot of the time because of their “fame”.
You gave the example that on this syndi a swim had been closed off and baited for a fortnight for him for filming. Then said you proved sponsored anglers get preferential treatment like your example is how he fishes all the time, which simply isn't true in the slightest. You proved nothing apart from what everyone already knows when it comes to most angling content creation.
My point being you tried to use an example of something that doesn't represent his normal angling, to say that “famous” anglers get preferential treatment all the time.
You should have used the example of actually getting tickets to lakes, that's where they bypass waiting lists a lot of the time because of their “fame”.
In reply to Post #78
Again, nowhere did I say “all the time” that is something you have inferred yourself.
Again, nowhere did I say “all the time” that is something you have inferred yourself.
In reply to Post #79
You also didn't say it wasn't all the time and inferred that is how “famous” anglers fish, without relating to the context of actually why it was happening, which was for filming and is specifically for that purpose. And claimed to have proved something, which you didn't.
It's like talking to a sheet of plasterboard, it really is.
You also didn't say it wasn't all the time and inferred that is how “famous” anglers fish, without relating to the context of actually why it was happening, which was for filming and is specifically for that purpose. And claimed to have proved something, which you didn't.
It's like talking to a sheet of plasterboard, it really is.
In reply to Post #80
“It's funny you mention Dave Lane because I had a walk round a syndicate last summer and the owner who was showing me round just happened to mention DL had done some filming there recently.
The owner also mentioned, for 2 weeks prior a swim had been cordoned off for Dave and prebaited every day.”
What more context do you want?
“It's funny you mention Dave Lane because I had a walk round a syndicate last summer and the owner who was showing me round just happened to mention DL had done some filming there recently.
The owner also mentioned, for 2 weeks prior a swim had been cordoned off for Dave and prebaited every day.”
What more context do you want?
In reply to Post #81
Let's quote it fully though yeah?
Thinking sponsored anglers don't get special treatment is incredibly naive. It's funny you mention Dave Lane because I had a walk round a syndicate last summer and the owner who was showing me round just happened to mention DL had done some filming there recently.
The owner also mentioned, for 2 weeks prior a swim had been cordoned off for Dave and prebaited every day.
I suspect this kind of thing happens a lot for celebrity anglers and it makes sense from a commercial perspective. Now I'm not saying celebrity anglers do or don't get better bait than the public but they do get preferable treatment in other areas of their angling, treatment is mere mortals could only dream of
You are saying it's naive of people to think they don't get special treatment, and used this example to try to prove it, backed up by your last sentence. But your example is nothing to do with everyday angling by sponsored anglers. It's to do with a business creating content and doesn't represent how Dave lane actually operates for his personal angling.
You use your example as proof sponsored anglers get preferential treatment that only we can dream of, this is what implies you believe it happens for them constantly, having a swim baited for them.
Time to stop the avoidance tactics now kiddo.
Let's quote it fully though yeah?
Thinking sponsored anglers don't get special treatment is incredibly naive. It's funny you mention Dave Lane because I had a walk round a syndicate last summer and the owner who was showing me round just happened to mention DL had done some filming there recently.
The owner also mentioned, for 2 weeks prior a swim had been cordoned off for Dave and prebaited every day.
I suspect this kind of thing happens a lot for celebrity anglers and it makes sense from a commercial perspective. Now I'm not saying celebrity anglers do or don't get better bait than the public but they do get preferable treatment in other areas of their angling, treatment is mere mortals could only dream of
You are saying it's naive of people to think they don't get special treatment, and used this example to try to prove it, backed up by your last sentence. But your example is nothing to do with everyday angling by sponsored anglers. It's to do with a business creating content and doesn't represent how Dave lane actually operates for his personal angling.
You use your example as proof sponsored anglers get preferential treatment that only we can dream of, this is what implies you believe it happens for them constantly, having a swim baited for them.
Time to stop the avoidance tactics now kiddo.
In reply to Post #82
You are reading things that haven't been written, I gave a specific example of a celebrity angler getting preferential treatment for filming, nowhere and I mean absolutely no where other than your imagination did I say it was constant. It isn't my fault you can't read or comprehend simple sentences and feel the need to invent words that haven't been written
You are reading things that haven't been written, I gave a specific example of a celebrity angler getting preferential treatment for filming, nowhere and I mean absolutely no where other than your imagination did I say it was constant. It isn't my fault you can't read or comprehend simple sentences and feel the need to invent words that haven't been written
In reply to Post #83
You told tcarper you “proved” sponsored anglers get special treatment and as I quoted you, it's something we mere mortals dream of. I'm pretty sure we don't all dream of having a swim cordoned off and baited for us so we can potentially catch a fish of a camera. If that's your dream then fair play but it isn't mine! Does that mean I'm not just a mere mortal though?
What did you “prove” though? You can't answer it.
Like I said, it's implied that you mean that in the way it reads. And again, it's a poor example of it, because for all you know the bait company organised/demanded it to ensure the best chance content is created. It's hardly preferential in the context of what was being spoken about, getting a better version of publicly available bait because they are sponsored.
And again, as I said it's a poor example to use. Others make more sense. Terry Hearn using the dynamite red fish with fresh fish he took to the factory himself maybe? But he was open about that. Skipping waiting lists like I mentioned, happens all the time.
You told tcarper you “proved” sponsored anglers get special treatment and as I quoted you, it's something we mere mortals dream of. I'm pretty sure we don't all dream of having a swim cordoned off and baited for us so we can potentially catch a fish of a camera. If that's your dream then fair play but it isn't mine! Does that mean I'm not just a mere mortal though?
What did you “prove” though? You can't answer it.
Like I said, it's implied that you mean that in the way it reads. And again, it's a poor example of it, because for all you know the bait company organised/demanded it to ensure the best chance content is created. It's hardly preferential in the context of what was being spoken about, getting a better version of publicly available bait because they are sponsored.
And again, as I said it's a poor example to use. Others make more sense. Terry Hearn using the dynamite red fish with fresh fish he took to the factory himself maybe? But he was open about that. Skipping waiting lists like I mentioned, happens all the time.
In reply to Post #84
So you agree sponsored anglers get preferential treatment, glad we finally cleared that up.
So you agree sponsored anglers get preferential treatment, glad we finally cleared that up.
In reply to Post #85
I never said I disagreed with it, just that your example doesn't go to show they do because it's a business transaction not related to everyday angling that sponsored anglers do away from filming for content.
Not sure you really quite get that using a bait constantly is different to a one time thing such as your example are not related. So either what you said is totally irrelevant or you were implying it happens like that for them all the time.
You didn't prove anything with what you said in regard to them benefitting in their regular fishing that others can't get their hands on and is secretive. But you tried to claim you did and I merely said you have no point as it's a bad example.
I never said I disagreed with it, just that your example doesn't go to show they do because it's a business transaction not related to everyday angling that sponsored anglers do away from filming for content.
Not sure you really quite get that using a bait constantly is different to a one time thing such as your example are not related. So either what you said is totally irrelevant or you were implying it happens like that for them all the time.
You didn't prove anything with what you said in regard to them benefitting in their regular fishing that others can't get their hands on and is secretive. But you tried to claim you did and I merely said you have no point as it's a bad example.
This argument
In reply to Post #86
I have to say, your ability to read what you want rather than what is written is quite frankly something special. Anyway this discussion has become rather boring and circular so I'm going to leave you too and and find something better to do, like watching paint dry.
I have to say, your ability to read what you want rather than what is written is quite frankly something special. Anyway this discussion has become rather boring and circular so I'm going to leave you too and and find something better to do, like watching paint dry.
In reply to Post #87
When you read the second half of this thread having got no emotional investment into the topic.... lads!....
When you read the second half of this thread having got no emotional investment into the topic.... lads!....
In reply to Post #88
You can't even read what you said yourself. Let alone what I'm saying
At least it's distracted you from trying to dig out Mark.
End of the day, if your dream is to be famous in the carp world and get the perks like you said, well more fool you! No one should care what others are doing and have access too. Focus on your own fishing, the resource you have and improve, not sit idle and moan about others are doing or have. “Famous” anglers weren't famous once. They got to where they are by being better than others at something, noticeably go the detriment of other aspects of life.
IMO the best anglers about are the ones that do their thing quietly whilst holding down a full time job and family at home, yet still out fish everyone, including the sponsored mob.
You can't even read what you said yourself. Let alone what I'm saying
At least it's distracted you from trying to dig out Mark.
End of the day, if your dream is to be famous in the carp world and get the perks like you said, well more fool you! No one should care what others are doing and have access too. Focus on your own fishing, the resource you have and improve, not sit idle and moan about others are doing or have. “Famous” anglers weren't famous once. They got to where they are by being better than others at something, noticeably go the detriment of other aspects of life.
IMO the best anglers about are the ones that do their thing quietly whilst holding down a full time job and family at home, yet still out fish everyone, including the sponsored mob.