In reply to Post #56
So you spoke directly to the Ukrainian people in the Donbas Region and they told you they wanted to be occupied by the Russians?
So you spoke directly to the Ukrainian people in the Donbas Region and they told you they wanted to be occupied by the Russians?
In reply to Post #61
No Ukraine people working here ,only two russian and lots of polish.
No Ukraine people working here ,only two russian and lots of polish.
In reply to Post #62
So how do you know those people are happy to be occupied by Russia?
So how do you know those people are happy to be occupied by Russia?
In reply to Post #63
I'm sure you know nearly 18% of the population of Ukraine were ethnic Russian's. Approximately eight and a half million.
I'm sure you know nearly 18% of the population of Ukraine were ethnic Russian's. Approximately eight and a half million.
In reply to Post #64
If that statistic is correct, I'd be interested where you got the figure. then 82% are not Russian. That's a very substantial majority of the population that doesn't want their land to be occupied by force.
Also, just because you are ‘ethnically Russian' (there are a few interpretations of what this actually means) does not mean that you want to be ruled by Putin.
If that statistic is correct, I'd be interested where you got the figure. then 82% are not Russian. That's a very substantial majority of the population that doesn't want their land to be occupied by force.
Also, just because you are ‘ethnically Russian' (there are a few interpretations of what this actually means) does not mean that you want to be ruled by Putin.
In reply to Post #65
And a vast amount of men of fighting age that had military training fled Ukraine at the start of the conflict, interpret that any way you like ,in my eyes if their own people won't fight for their country why should we ? 2.6 billion yesterday alone while are country falls apart.
And those figures were from a Ukrainian census in 2001.
And a vast amount of men of fighting age that had military training fled Ukraine at the start of the conflict, interpret that any way you like ,in my eyes if their own people won't fight for their country why should we ? 2.6 billion yesterday alone while are country falls apart.
And those figures were from a Ukrainian census in 2001.
In reply to Post #66
I'm not debating whether the UK should have troops on the ground in the Ukraine. That's another complex matter.
My question to you is where your information is coming from to support that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian's in the borderlands of Russia are happy to be occupied by force. It seems it either came from one Ukrainian living in England, some Russians or some Polish guys, also in England.
I think you actually read that on a screen and now you are repeating it as fact on this forum. This is how propaganda propagates.
The Russians have been masters at controlling the media since the printing press. Putin understood the power of TV to the Russian people and took over the stations. Now it's the internet, through sites like Facebook that target a specific demographic that will believe what they read if it fits their values.
I'm not debating whether the UK should have troops on the ground in the Ukraine. That's another complex matter.
My question to you is where your information is coming from to support that hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian's in the borderlands of Russia are happy to be occupied by force. It seems it either came from one Ukrainian living in England, some Russians or some Polish guys, also in England.
I think you actually read that on a screen and now you are repeating it as fact on this forum. This is how propaganda propagates.
The Russians have been masters at controlling the media since the printing press. Putin understood the power of TV to the Russian people and took over the stations. Now it's the internet, through sites like Facebook that target a specific demographic that will believe what they read if it fits their values.
In reply to Post #67
You obviously didn't read the last bit or choose to ignore it. I'm not quoting anything from Facebook either as I only use messenger to keep in touch with friends and family.
You obviously didn't read the last bit or choose to ignore it. I'm not quoting anything from Facebook either as I only use messenger to keep in touch with friends and family.
In reply to Post #68
How would a 2001 census pick up public opinion on an invasion that started in 2014?
How would a 2001 census pick up public opinion on an invasion that started in 2014?
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In reply to Post #70
Some more fake stuff but then you think everything is fake, or is it.
https://www.threads.net/@markvezina/post/DG7YJYpMFaS?xmt=AQGzwm_qhWRGQAARlBYJQk9vWHTHLSWgzsflofFq7m999Q
Some more fake stuff but then you think everything is fake, or is it.
https://www.threads.net/@markvezina/post/DG7YJYpMFaS?xmt=AQGzwm_qhWRGQAARlBYJQk9vWHTHLSWgzsflofFq7m999Q
In reply to Post #71
I don't have a Meta (Facebook) account so I can't read that link. I guess we've finally proved a point.
I don't have a Meta (Facebook) account so I can't read that link. I guess we've finally proved a point.
In reply to Post #72
Yes we've proved your clueless but many know that and ignore anything you post. Link is not FB.
Yes we've proved your clueless but many know that and ignore anything you post. Link is not FB.
In reply to Post #73
Threads is owned by Meta. Meta is Facebook.
Threads is owned by Meta. Meta is Facebook.
People Get bent out of shape because putin is having a ground war in the east of the Ukraine yet don't say **** about the complete annihilation of Palestine and its people......give ya heads a wobble ffs....... 
Trump has managed to get a ceasefire on the table in less than 80 days in office but is still the bad guy.......what the **** did the kiddy sniffer and his leftie cronies do in 3yrs.......absolutely feck all! Add to the fact Biden and his son were exposed for shady Ukrainian deals and trump gets the hate for Calling it out on live TV.......
Trump has managed to get a ceasefire on the table in less than 80 days in office but is still the bad guy.......what the **** did the kiddy sniffer and his leftie cronies do in 3yrs.......absolutely feck all! Add to the fact Biden and his son were exposed for shady Ukrainian deals and trump gets the hate for Calling it out on live TV.......