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ESP Quickdraw Rods (96 posts / 11,580 views)
ip100 ip100
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Post #61 6 Jan 2022 12:38
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So why did you single out nash when EVERY company does the same?
ip100 ip100
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Post #62 6 Jan 2022 12:39
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Order them from Alibaba and see what turns up....
Bivvybug Bivvybug
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Post #63 6 Jan 2022 12:55
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As I said some time ago and it was the factory where they are made not a shop
ip100 ip100
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Post #64 6 Jan 2022 13:11
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Or could it be a factory making cheap copies? Like I said, order those Alibaba ones and see what turns up.
noj
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Social photographer... Post #65 6 Jan 2022 13:51
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Harrison, century etc. still make a profit. If it wasn't lucrative nobody would make fishing rods and if every manufacturer ran at minimal profit margin there would be no free content available to watch or read.
Even if a rod costs £1 to make but £100 to buy.. spend a few weekends trying to roll blanks or split and whip some cane to make yourself a few rods lol
dickweed dickweed
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Post #66 6 Jan 2022 15:20
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Because Nash do it to a higher extent, or at least when it comes to these fad 10 ft rods.
ip100 ip100
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Post #67 6 Jan 2022 15:27
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And you'd know about their, and other makers mark ups how exactly? You dont, do you?!
Bivvybug Bivvybug
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Post #68 6 Jan 2022 15:29
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I do remember the Nash hoodie £90
Goose Goose
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Post #69 6 Jan 2022 15:48
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So you know how much nash put in to the design and development of these rods that others have copied in many cases with lower quality carbon blanks and cheaper fittings. Plus nash have invested in promoting them especially when first released. You also claim their profit margins on them are higher than others manufacturers, doubt you can prove that but would be interested if you can, and I do mean prove not just rant off the un substantiated you have been doing. The top man at kawasaki once said its nice to be first to market with a new product but often more profitable to be second with little or no R&D costs.
dickweed dickweed
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Post #70 6 Jan 2022 15:55
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And a Nash moon chair thing at 100 quid. Garden centres near me doing them for about a third of the price.

I wonder how much research and development Nash put into designing that one.
dickweed dickweed
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Post #71 6 Jan 2022 16:08
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Did the man at Kawasaki say this before or after KTM started doing very well.
Bivvybug Bivvybug
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Post #72 6 Jan 2022 16:09
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Aren't they a revamped telescopic rod that's been out decades made into two piece
Spod Spod
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Post #73 6 Jan 2022 16:37
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No, they aren't
Bivvybug Bivvybug
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Post #74 6 Jan 2022 16:42
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I thought They are telescopic the blank goes into the handle
noj
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Social photographer... Post #75 6 Jan 2022 17:40
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The reality is, there are only so many ways to make a rod. Doesn't matter if it's made by a Korean, Chinese person, Malaysian or Steve Harrison himself.. the materials and methods are the same.
ESP/drennan have always struck the right balance with sensible assembly, so I'm sure these rods will be great. I expect a higher spec woven blank model if these do well too.
Nash did throw money at this concept and took a bashing. Now they have the best range by far and lead the market others are just tapping into. They deserve to charge a premium for a proven product that set the standard
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