In reply to Post #45
Dont see a lake at the moment that would appeal to me... Everything turning into Disneyland and circus... majority of my fishing is now done for social aspect that is why I decided to do some fishing for other species combined with hiking/traveling and visiting places not normally associated with fishing.
Dont see a lake at the moment that would appeal to me... Everything turning into Disneyland and circus... majority of my fishing is now done for social aspect that is why I decided to do some fishing for other species combined with hiking/traveling and visiting places not normally associated with fishing.
In reply to Post #46
Watched a bit of Kevin nash podcast , he talks about losing the desire
And taking up fishery management
He explained about being stuck down one end when the fish were down the other
, time bandits , the unemployed , everything that stood in his way to enjoying himself I guess .
He comes across badly in my view , considering what he's gained from the hobby
When us Old boys talk of having a better time in the past , and we did
It always comes across to the younger anglers badly
For me it was about fishing for the unknown sometimes mythical monster
that probably didn't exist anyway, probably ended up in a pond elsewhere lol
Going back to the original post, find somewhere quiet , don't worry about catching the biggest , catch what's
In front of you and the buzz does return 👍🏻
Watched a bit of Kevin nash podcast , he talks about losing the desire
And taking up fishery management
He explained about being stuck down one end when the fish were down the other
, time bandits , the unemployed , everything that stood in his way to enjoying himself I guess .
He comes across badly in my view , considering what he's gained from the hobby
When us Old boys talk of having a better time in the past , and we did
It always comes across to the younger anglers badly
For me it was about fishing for the unknown sometimes mythical monster
that probably didn't exist anyway, probably ended up in a pond elsewhere lol
Going back to the original post, find somewhere quiet , don't worry about catching the biggest , catch what's
In front of you and the buzz does return 👍🏻
In reply to Post #42
It's a kick in the nuts eh?
My place was blinding. Great stock, big pit and only ever a few blokes about. The biggest one turned 50lb and then the goons rocked up after the word got out because some numbskull couldn't keep his mouth shut after he had it.
I did say to them you want to keep this all to yourselves as the place will turn into a circus. The imminent Facebook posts went up, waiting list was as long as your arm with a full.syndicste where they struggled to sell 20 or so tickets most season when there was 50 up for grabs on a 100 acre pit, I pulled off quite quickly after that and left them to it. A real shame in all honesty.
It's a kick in the nuts eh?
My place was blinding. Great stock, big pit and only ever a few blokes about. The biggest one turned 50lb and then the goons rocked up after the word got out because some numbskull couldn't keep his mouth shut after he had it.
I did say to them you want to keep this all to yourselves as the place will turn into a circus. The imminent Facebook posts went up, waiting list was as long as your arm with a full.syndicste where they struggled to sell 20 or so tickets most season when there was 50 up for grabs on a 100 acre pit, I pulled off quite quickly after that and left them to it. A real shame in all honesty.
In reply to Post #47
The place I'm fishing has a mostly unknown stock with a few known oldies knocking about. There was a load of fish in it at one point in time, now it's not the case and the place is empty.
It's over 100 acres and most weekends from the end of the last lockdown, there was 4 on at the weekends including myself, sometimes it was me and one other. The fishing is very tough going with little to show for the time that I've spent there, all the same, I can say with my hand on my heart it's been some of the very best fishing I've experienced, truly wonderful. The surroundings are glorious, couldn't wish for better. So glad I got this ticket and I'm in no hurry to drop it. There are gems out there, just a case of finding them 👍
The place I'm fishing has a mostly unknown stock with a few known oldies knocking about. There was a load of fish in it at one point in time, now it's not the case and the place is empty.
It's over 100 acres and most weekends from the end of the last lockdown, there was 4 on at the weekends including myself, sometimes it was me and one other. The fishing is very tough going with little to show for the time that I've spent there, all the same, I can say with my hand on my heart it's been some of the very best fishing I've experienced, truly wonderful. The surroundings are glorious, couldn't wish for better. So glad I got this ticket and I'm in no hurry to drop it. There are gems out there, just a case of finding them 👍
In reply to Post #49
We know, TeeCee. You mention it every other day
We know, TeeCee. You mention it every other day
In reply to Post #50
Really?
Got a famous history water that should come up next year. Should be good bouncing between the two. Just got to put up with the M25 to get there 🥺
Really?
Got a famous history water that should come up next year. Should be good bouncing between the two. Just got to put up with the M25 to get there 🥺
In reply to Post #48
There was nothing massive in the one I was on,just having the place to yourself most weekends made it worth it.I said to my mate it would get ruined by Facebook page and unfortunately it turned out to be right
There was nothing massive in the one I was on,just having the place to yourself most weekends made it worth it.I said to my mate it would get ruined by Facebook page and unfortunately it turned out to be right
Happens to all or most of us at least once in a while. Dont worry about it and keep hold of your gear. Maybe try a bit of perch fishing or whatever now the colder weather is here.Much easier to get motivated with one rod, a small net and a bag of soft plastic lures. You stay warmer too moving around.
In reply to Post #53
The thing is all anglers love a quiet water and want them to stay that way. Unfortunately in most cases that is simply unsustainable due to leases needing to be covered, loans repaying or a return on investment required. Wraysbury was a prime example.
The thing is all anglers love a quiet water and want them to stay that way. Unfortunately in most cases that is simply unsustainable due to leases needing to be covered, loans repaying or a return on investment required. Wraysbury was a prime example.
In reply to Post #55
I'm not sure if Wraysbury is that great an example. I didn't fish No:1 although I fished No:2 before the takeover. I never saw any investment in either two of those waters when Cemex owned it and Leisure Sport before that.
Horton (clownworld) was the only one at the time that ever saw any real investment, which they charged a kings ransom for the privilege and being the progenitor of the modern carp scene.
I'm not sure if Wraysbury is that great an example. I didn't fish No:1 although I fished No:2 before the takeover. I never saw any investment in either two of those waters when Cemex owned it and Leisure Sport before that.
Horton (clownworld) was the only one at the time that ever saw any real investment, which they charged a kings ransom for the privilege and being the progenitor of the modern carp scene.
In reply to Post #56
That's exactly why Wraysbury is a good example of what I was saying.
Wraysbury had no investment and very few tickets were sold = unsustainable.
Horton had investment and every ticket was sold = sustainable
Wraysbury has now had loads of investment and it can't be run as a quiet water with just a few anglers enjoying it.
One way or another all waters belong to someone or a business and in most cases just selling a few tickets is unsustainable.
That's exactly why Wraysbury is a good example of what I was saying.
Wraysbury had no investment and very few tickets were sold = unsustainable.
Horton had investment and every ticket was sold = sustainable
Wraysbury has now had loads of investment and it can't be run as a quiet water with just a few anglers enjoying it.
One way or another all waters belong to someone or a business and in most cases just selling a few tickets is unsustainable.
In reply to Post #55
It was only a little club water,it hardly got fished due to the walk and people not realising what was in it.As soon as pictures were posted it slowly got busier and busier.I don't get why people have to post pics of everything they catch on social media
It was only a little club water,it hardly got fished due to the walk and people not realising what was in it.As soon as pictures were posted it slowly got busier and busier.I don't get why people have to post pics of everything they catch on social media
In reply to Post #57
Mate, like they are today, just holes in the ground. The investment comes when you wanna put barked swims in, jetties, fence the whole place off, add more fish. Back in the day none of this applies, so where was the money needed for investment of zero? Cemex owned them outright, they didn't have to pay anyone other than the guys running the fisheries. Like I was suggesting, the Wraysbury thing doesn't work.
Basically the complex is a cotch up of as much money as possible. Sure, its all fancy and that and people fishing a fake plastic version of what once was.
Mate, like they are today, just holes in the ground. The investment comes when you wanna put barked swims in, jetties, fence the whole place off, add more fish. Back in the day none of this applies, so where was the money needed for investment of zero? Cemex owned them outright, they didn't have to pay anyone other than the guys running the fisheries. Like I was suggesting, the Wraysbury thing doesn't work.
Basically the complex is a cotch up of as much money as possible. Sure, its all fancy and that and people fishing a fake plastic version of what once was.
In reply to Post #59
When Hall Aggregates/RMC had finished quarrying the pits they got huge payments from the government if they were turned into leisure venues. These payments had stopped by the time Cemex had bought the business and it was decided that Cemex Angling didn't generate enough revenue across the portfolio, hence the big sell off.
Personally I think what has been done at Wraysbury is utterly amazing considering the other likely outcomes.
When Hall Aggregates/RMC had finished quarrying the pits they got huge payments from the government if they were turned into leisure venues. These payments had stopped by the time Cemex had bought the business and it was decided that Cemex Angling didn't generate enough revenue across the portfolio, hence the big sell off.
Personally I think what has been done at Wraysbury is utterly amazing considering the other likely outcomes.
In reply to Post #60
Cemex at the time pulled out of the U.K across the board, from new build sites (very profitable) all the way through to the likes of Wraysbury. They (Cemex) just dumped the stuff that wasn't making them maximum profit. Like I was saying, couldn't have cost anything to sell a bunch of tickets for a hole in the ground full of water with practically zero investment?
"Wraysbury is utterly amazing considering the other likely outcomes".
What, someone sensible would have bought it and not filled it full of carp so any fool can claim they've caught a fish out of what was before this recent lot got hold of it a place where you had to be on your game to even get a sniff at a chance of one of its 20 or so inhabitants? Isn't that the modern day carper for you all over?
The whole buzz of fishing somewhere like Wraysbury back in the day was it's sheer size and ultra low stock, the difficulty aspect, all of which has been taken away and essentially ruined. What was once an iconic water has now been turned into a mince grinder whereby your 'modern carp angler'™ after reading books on days of yore whilst treading those banks with illusionary thoughts are fooling themselves.... Wraysbury is dead, long gone, now just a pale imitation of what it once was.
On a positive note and as I've mentioned in previous threads in regards to the likes of Wraysbury (my sides) and similar waters with insane stocks of fish, at least it keeps *that* type of angler well away from the sorts of places where I fish. To borrow I term I totally detest 'happy days'.
Inb4 "you're just old and bitter" no, no I'm not, just realistic on the state of modernity.
Cemex at the time pulled out of the U.K across the board, from new build sites (very profitable) all the way through to the likes of Wraysbury. They (Cemex) just dumped the stuff that wasn't making them maximum profit. Like I was saying, couldn't have cost anything to sell a bunch of tickets for a hole in the ground full of water with practically zero investment?
"Wraysbury is utterly amazing considering the other likely outcomes".
What, someone sensible would have bought it and not filled it full of carp so any fool can claim they've caught a fish out of what was before this recent lot got hold of it a place where you had to be on your game to even get a sniff at a chance of one of its 20 or so inhabitants? Isn't that the modern day carper for you all over?
The whole buzz of fishing somewhere like Wraysbury back in the day was it's sheer size and ultra low stock, the difficulty aspect, all of which has been taken away and essentially ruined. What was once an iconic water has now been turned into a mince grinder whereby your 'modern carp angler'™ after reading books on days of yore whilst treading those banks with illusionary thoughts are fooling themselves.... Wraysbury is dead, long gone, now just a pale imitation of what it once was.
On a positive note and as I've mentioned in previous threads in regards to the likes of Wraysbury (my sides) and similar waters with insane stocks of fish, at least it keeps *that* type of angler well away from the sorts of places where I fish. To borrow I term I totally detest 'happy days'.
Inb4 "you're just old and bitter" no, no I'm not, just realistic on the state of modernity.