In reply to Post #49

Nothing to do with tc. Whatever becomes the shortest without snapping will pull harder. That's why people subconsciously grab the rod near the join to subdue a fish, because the 6' between butt and joint that rarely flexes is detrimental to applying force.
Big game fishing involves having an open ocean in front of you so you could use a 100' rod if you wanted, but they are all below 8'
It's misleading to say a fly rod will always pull harder because they will pretty much all blow up if hooped over like a carp rod at the net, you need to use the meat of the butt for fighting fish. I blew up a 12wt that cost £700+ before I realised that stood with sw fly rods too haha
As for having your tips up, if you can get a good fixing in the ground it's sometimes the best way to secure a rod with a locked drag. The rod flex stops it being pulled in, though if you're fishing snags I don't think you should be more than a few feet from your rods and certainly not asleep, however light a sleeper you think you are

In reply to Post #46
You were refering and comparing a 1970's 8oz fly rod.

I would imagine although i could be wrong but these days that when snag fishing a modern day carp rod would be a better tool to use than an 8oz fly rod?

You are now comparing different actions and tapers on carp rods, 3.5lb against 2.75lb that could not be further from your original statement regarding 8oz fly rods!

Gerry I'm presuming you still use these fly rods for snag fishing perhaps you can tell me how you set the eyes out so that you now have a better tool for snag fishing than a modern day carp rod?

2.25lb test. Plenty of bend = plenty of power. (Less and less hair )

In reply to Post #53
yep nice shot too m8