In reply to Post #45
You keep telling yourself that if helps you get up in the morning
You keep telling yourself that if helps you get up in the morning
In reply to Post #37
Where can we see this footage? The stuff that 'disproved the racist element'.
I'm genuinely interested to have a look. Is it video of Chauvin kneeling on a white mans neck for nearly nine minutes until he dies just to show it's not race related? A short monologue about how some of his best mates are black? A bit of post death footage where he says he was taking a knee in support of Colin Kapearnick and the bad guy just got in the way...? Excuse my sarcasm but you seem happy enough to accept this footage as truth while saying that the other footage isn't enough for people to form a judgement. Last I looked, it still showed the same horrific act.
And the OP asked about people's thoughts on the matter. Not for expert analysis. Out of interest how many years did you do in the Minneapolis Police Department? Or were you on the medical side?
Where can we see this footage? The stuff that 'disproved the racist element'.
I'm genuinely interested to have a look. Is it video of Chauvin kneeling on a white mans neck for nearly nine minutes until he dies just to show it's not race related? A short monologue about how some of his best mates are black? A bit of post death footage where he says he was taking a knee in support of Colin Kapearnick and the bad guy just got in the way...? Excuse my sarcasm but you seem happy enough to accept this footage as truth while saying that the other footage isn't enough for people to form a judgement. Last I looked, it still showed the same horrific act.
And the OP asked about people's thoughts on the matter. Not for expert analysis. Out of interest how many years did you do in the Minneapolis Police Department? Or were you on the medical side?
In reply to Post #40
It took 15 minutes for 4 tough guy US police offices to reduce Rodney Kings facial bones to dust on film, to be found innocent at trail mate. The ramifications were huge and brought about change for a systematically racist LAPD at that time by subsequent enquiry.
Whatever the "ace" is if there even is one it'll be tough to be a jury member.
It took 15 minutes for 4 tough guy US police offices to reduce Rodney Kings facial bones to dust on film, to be found innocent at trail mate. The ramifications were huge and brought about change for a systematically racist LAPD at that time by subsequent enquiry.
Whatever the "ace" is if there even is one it'll be tough to be a jury member.
In reply to Post #46
Don't need any help numpty I look forward to it
Don't need any help numpty I look forward to it
In reply to Post #49
I bet you do, back in the dry
I bet you do, back in the dry
In reply to Post #47
If youd have used google, and typed in, george floyd body cam footage, it comes up. But instead you decide to act up and write 10 times that in sarcasm. And the incident was never racially motivated, it was made into a racist incident, by the media and anyone else who decided they could benefit from it. Just because the police officer is white, and the person being dealt with is black, does not make it a racist incident.
And if you are happy to make a judgment on an entire situation, based on 10% of the available information, you crack on with all the other wallys running around shouting about stuff they know nothing about.
And what i do for a living is irrelevant. What is relevant is the fact i know i am not in full possession of the facts, so am in no place to pass judgement on a situation.
If youd have used google, and typed in, george floyd body cam footage, it comes up. But instead you decide to act up and write 10 times that in sarcasm. And the incident was never racially motivated, it was made into a racist incident, by the media and anyone else who decided they could benefit from it. Just because the police officer is white, and the person being dealt with is black, does not make it a racist incident.
And if you are happy to make a judgment on an entire situation, based on 10% of the available information, you crack on with all the other wallys running around shouting about stuff they know nothing about.
And what i do for a living is irrelevant. What is relevant is the fact i know i am not in full possession of the facts, so am in no place to pass judgement on a situation.
In reply to Post #50
That's a bit better
Keep that transparent skin out of the weather, could be rain soon.
That's a bit better
Keep that transparent skin out of the weather, could be rain soon.
In reply to Post #52
A bit colder but no rain forecast
A bit colder but no rain forecast
In reply to Post #51
I feel for you. You could try indeed or one of the other job websites and see if there's something more worthwhile out there.
By the way... what percentage of the available information would you say Chauvins body cam equates to? You know, that which you are basing your entire judgement on the 'proof' that there was no race related issue.... less than 10 per cent maybe?
New footage from the cams of the other officers today. Plus witness statement from the guy who served him in the shop. None of which point to the pathetic argument that Chauvin was 'in fear for his safety / life'.
I feel for you. You could try indeed or one of the other job websites and see if there's something more worthwhile out there.
By the way... what percentage of the available information would you say Chauvins body cam equates to? You know, that which you are basing your entire judgement on the 'proof' that there was no race related issue.... less than 10 per cent maybe?
New footage from the cams of the other officers today. Plus witness statement from the guy who served him in the shop. None of which point to the pathetic argument that Chauvin was 'in fear for his safety / life'.
In reply to Post #54
Your life must be so empty if you can get so wound up and waste so much energy on something so far away but hey you ride the band wagon, but then what else have you got to do when that bell goes.
Your life must be so empty if you can get so wound up and waste so much energy on something so far away but hey you ride the band wagon, but then what else have you got to do when that bell goes.
Well yet another thread that was only going to end one way on here 
In reply to Post #56
I guess that's the whole point of a discussion Braders. Some people have strong views on the subject, others couldn't really give a **** 
Some people need to appreciate that other people have their own views too
I guess that's the whole point of a discussion Braders. Some people have strong views on the subject, others couldn't really give a ****
Some people need to appreciate that other people have their own views too
In reply to Post #55
I'm sure Mal can look after himself, but looks to me like the ones getting wound up are yourself and heff. Clearly neither of you have the faintest idea about what racism is.
And l guess you don't really want to know either because then you would have to acknowledge that you're probably racist too.
And no, I'm not going to explain it- you would reject anything l say because I'm either woke or a PC liberal.
I'm sure Mal can look after himself, but looks to me like the ones getting wound up are yourself and heff. Clearly neither of you have the faintest idea about what racism is.
And l guess you don't really want to know either because then you would have to acknowledge that you're probably racist too.
And no, I'm not going to explain it- you would reject anything l say because I'm either woke or a PC liberal.
In reply to Post #58
I am not getting wound up in the slightest, merely trying to have an afult discussion with people about a subject. But it appears a discussion is a waste of time when people have already made their mind up on something, that they dont have all the information about, but have been lead by the media and unwilling to look at anything subjectively.
Mr mal for example, knows all about this case, but wasnt even aware the bodyworn had been released or even existed. I do hope you never find yourself on the receiving end of a band wagon.
And please explain to me what made this a racist incident, other than a white police officer stopping a black member of the public? You are aware this wasnt a random stop right? Would we be having this discussion if george floyd was white and exactly the same thing had taken place? No we would t, because the media would have got nothing out out of it, and you wouldnt be able to get up on your high horse about it.
Is there an issue with racism in the states, yes, there is, but that doesnt mean everything between a white police officer and a black member of the public is a racist incident
But thanks for your input, all that to effectively call people racist, and explain why you wont explain yourself
I am not getting wound up in the slightest, merely trying to have an afult discussion with people about a subject. But it appears a discussion is a waste of time when people have already made their mind up on something, that they dont have all the information about, but have been lead by the media and unwilling to look at anything subjectively.
Mr mal for example, knows all about this case, but wasnt even aware the bodyworn had been released or even existed. I do hope you never find yourself on the receiving end of a band wagon.
And please explain to me what made this a racist incident, other than a white police officer stopping a black member of the public? You are aware this wasnt a random stop right? Would we be having this discussion if george floyd was white and exactly the same thing had taken place? No we would t, because the media would have got nothing out out of it, and you wouldnt be able to get up on your high horse about it.
Is there an issue with racism in the states, yes, there is, but that doesnt mean everything between a white police officer and a black member of the public is a racist incident
But thanks for your input, all that to effectively call people racist, and explain why you wont explain yourself
In reply to Post #54
So having watched the initial footage, which shows nothing to suggest is was racist, and the body cam footage to back it up. I dont think it was racist. Not sure how that could make me racist, as suggested below.
However you who had only watched the initial footage and read stuff in the media, is so certain it is a racist incident.
Read what im saying, educate yourself with facts before making sweeping judgements on stuff. Stop being facetious about it and open your mind to the possibility that there are often 2 or more sides to a story, and maybe stuff is being steered in a certain way, because there is an agenda.
So having watched the initial footage, which shows nothing to suggest is was racist, and the body cam footage to back it up. I dont think it was racist. Not sure how that could make me racist, as suggested below.
However you who had only watched the initial footage and read stuff in the media, is so certain it is a racist incident.
Read what im saying, educate yourself with facts before making sweeping judgements on stuff. Stop being facetious about it and open your mind to the possibility that there are often 2 or more sides to a story, and maybe stuff is being steered in a certain way, because there is an agenda.