In reply to Post #45
There was a lot of s lite type guides that used to lose their liners there was frequent posts on forums, kigan did do some but there were other makes that weren't as good as the kigan imo.

Quite a few years ago now kigan changed the design of the frame (3d) which secures the liner a lot better, ive never had an issue with these but did suffer problems with older s lite type guides

In reply to Post #45
I'm pretty sure sure century use their own SIC rings ,not Kagan were yours custom builds by any chance

In reply to Post #47
Defiantly factory builds, as they came direct trade to me.

In reply to Post #48
Like you say then I've just been lucky with mine makes a nice change for me ..

In reply to Post #41
Spoke to Kev today he reckons they are outselling the 13ft version now.I love my 13fters though,I won't change these anytime soon