In reply to Post #46
had a jab a few years ago for this weils disease but how long does it last b4 i need to have it again ..??
Without wishing to worry you, Dean, I can assure you that you did not have an inoculation against Weils Disease...There IS NO effective preventative measure currently available, though they are researching like mad to try and find one. No matter what anyone says (and this includes some doctors) you cannot at present receive a jab that will protect against Weils. IT DOES NOT EXIST!
It is thought that a recent anti-tetanus jab may help in slowing down the progress of Weils but it is NOT a prevention in itself.
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had a jab a few years ago for this weils disease but how long does it last b4 i need to have it again ..??
Without wishing to worry you, Dean, I can assure you that you did not have an inoculation against Weils Disease...There IS NO effective preventative measure currently available, though they are researching like mad to try and find one. No matter what anyone says (and this includes some doctors) you cannot at present receive a jab that will protect against Weils. IT DOES NOT EXIST!
It is thought that a recent anti-tetanus jab may help in slowing down the progress of Weils but it is NOT a prevention in itself.
Lepto Information Centre advice
preventative medication
In reply to Post #47
i hear what your saying Ken, dont think it was exactly for weils, but minimises how bad you might get it, might have been some kind of tetnus, work underground in tunnels where drainage would cause a problem with rat urine and alike, never had a symptom yet and hope i never do. glad you recovered from yours, some great tips and talks from the mighty Ken would very much be missed, tight lines chaps....
i hear what your saying Ken, dont think it was exactly for weils, but minimises how bad you might get it, might have been some kind of tetnus, work underground in tunnels where drainage would cause a problem with rat urine and alike, never had a symptom yet and hope i never do. glad you recovered from yours, some great tips and talks from the mighty Ken would very much be missed, tight lines chaps....
In reply to Post #48
Friends I know generaly working with sewage and associated risks are advised to have hepatitus a,b, & c type innoculations as well as a regular tetanus. Again as stated no protection to Weils, still might be an idea to check with your GP as not sure how often persons in high risk catagories should re-vacinate. Tetanus was generally 10 years.
Friends I know generaly working with sewage and associated risks are advised to have hepatitus a,b, & c type innoculations as well as a regular tetanus. Again as stated no protection to Weils, still might be an idea to check with your GP as not sure how often persons in high risk catagories should re-vacinate. Tetanus was generally 10 years.
In reply to Post #17
Been reading through this over the past few days, i beleive the younger generation like myself needs to be more aware off this, i've seen people my age wash their pans in the lake, then prepare food on it after!
Been reading through this over the past few days, i beleive the younger generation like myself needs to be more aware off this, i've seen people my age wash their pans in the lake, then prepare food on it after!
In reply to Post #48
Hi Dean,
I'd make sure that your tetanus is up to date...Same goes to everyone reading this...
Hi Dean,
I'd make sure that your tetanus is up to date...Same goes to everyone reading this...
In reply to Post #1000
After reading this thread I will be sticking an anti-bacterial hand wash in my tackle box for sure! Ive been meaning to do it anyway if not just for removing the taste of bloodworm boiles from my hands before i tuck into my food!
Trying to be the devils advocate here a bit I would say that where ever we are we are surrounded by rats...just because you cant see them doesnt mean they are not there...it wasn't until we got a cat recently that i knew how many were around our garden (normal house in brum suberbs)...massive things as well! I think you tend to notice them more when fishing as you are generally sat still and silent as it gets dark. If you sit still and silently almost anywhere at night outside you will see a rat before too long.
The point im making is there is the potential for Wiels to be spread virtually anywhere...say a kids toy left outside on a hot summers night gets rat's pee on, kid picks it up next morning and then sticks their hand in their mouth...
I agree take sensible precautions where ever you can (as i said i will be leaving handwash in my kitbag from now on) but try not to panic when you see a rat as they are part and parcel of our daily lives. I would also say my point goes both ways..not only should you not sit there panicking while fishing that you might die any second (obviously take sensible precautions) but also you should be more aware of rats living, feeding, peeing around, and quite possibly IN your house and garden.
Doing an overnighter last August i was barely able to get to sleep...i could hear undreds of rats and they seemed to be fighting non stop (horrible loud screaching sounds) and you could here them swimming back and forth from "rat" island! My fishing buddy thought i was a little OTT cause i wouldnt stop talking about them...looking at my bivvy in the head torch from his swim all you could see was hundreds of pairs of shiny eyes, it was pretty immense lol. Next morning we looked for our bait and could see it either floating off in the water (couple whole loves of bread for surface fishing) or it was simply gone! My mate had a tin of luncheon meat which he was gonna chuck so he stuck it on the ground between his 2 feet, with the intention of splatting any attacking rats...was gone within a couple of minutes and we didnt even see the culprit!
After reading this thread I will be sticking an anti-bacterial hand wash in my tackle box for sure! Ive been meaning to do it anyway if not just for removing the taste of bloodworm boiles from my hands before i tuck into my food!
Trying to be the devils advocate here a bit I would say that where ever we are we are surrounded by rats...just because you cant see them doesnt mean they are not there...it wasn't until we got a cat recently that i knew how many were around our garden (normal house in brum suberbs)...massive things as well! I think you tend to notice them more when fishing as you are generally sat still and silent as it gets dark. If you sit still and silently almost anywhere at night outside you will see a rat before too long.
The point im making is there is the potential for Wiels to be spread virtually anywhere...say a kids toy left outside on a hot summers night gets rat's pee on, kid picks it up next morning and then sticks their hand in their mouth...
I agree take sensible precautions where ever you can (as i said i will be leaving handwash in my kitbag from now on) but try not to panic when you see a rat as they are part and parcel of our daily lives. I would also say my point goes both ways..not only should you not sit there panicking while fishing that you might die any second (obviously take sensible precautions) but also you should be more aware of rats living, feeding, peeing around, and quite possibly IN your house and garden.
Doing an overnighter last August i was barely able to get to sleep...i could hear undreds of rats and they seemed to be fighting non stop (horrible loud screaching sounds) and you could here them swimming back and forth from "rat" island! My fishing buddy thought i was a little OTT cause i wouldnt stop talking about them...looking at my bivvy in the head torch from his swim all you could see was hundreds of pairs of shiny eyes, it was pretty immense lol. Next morning we looked for our bait and could see it either floating off in the water (couple whole loves of bread for surface fishing) or it was simply gone! My mate had a tin of luncheon meat which he was gonna chuck so he stuck it on the ground between his 2 feet, with the intention of splatting any attacking rats...was gone within a couple of minutes and we didnt even see the culprit!
In reply to Post #24
>>Please note not all antibacterial wipes are proof against Weil's disease
I work in our rivers as part of my job and we have always been issued with alcohol smelling 'antibacterial' wipes.
These were withdrawn recently, the reason given was that they were not proof against Weil's disease.
We now have Gorilla Wipes which are effective against Weil's disease. They also stink terribly so I suspect that they contain something stronger than the normal antibacterial ones.
>>Please note not all antibacterial wipes are proof against Weil's disease
I work in our rivers as part of my job and we have always been issued with alcohol smelling 'antibacterial' wipes.
These were withdrawn recently, the reason given was that they were not proof against Weil's disease.
We now have Gorilla Wipes which are effective against Weil's disease. They also stink terribly so I suspect that they contain something stronger than the normal antibacterial ones.
In reply to Post #53
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In reply to Post #10
is it legal to have an airweapon in a public place then?
is it legal to have an airweapon in a public place then?
In reply to Post #1000
i hate rats
i hate rats
In reply to Post #1000
2.2 airifle did the trick for me haha
2.2 airifle did the trick for me haha
In reply to Post #1000
after reading all of this has made me even more aware this is something i can not really catch higher risk to me possibly due to the fact i have no spleen which is my imune system that helps to fight infections. Glad i found this and thanks to ken for the link
after reading all of this has made me even more aware this is something i can not really catch higher risk to me possibly due to the fact i have no spleen which is my imune system that helps to fight infections. Glad i found this and thanks to ken for the link
In reply to Post #1000
I had wells disease once and it is easy to catch. Years ago i was stupid enough to clean my plates and cutlery in the lake i once fished. I believe i caught the disease this way and i was bad for a few days and i think if i had not had a upto date tetanus injection then symptoms would of been alot worse. I had severe headaches and severe dizzy spells and terribly sick for days. Believe me this is not nice, also when making cups of tea never leave spoons on the grass and keep all food in your bag of the floor. I keep my cups and spoons and all food in my bag away from the ground and when cleaning my plates and cutlery i always boil the kettle and wash in this. Also i keep baby wipes on me to clean them after. When eating food just quickly wipe your hands with baby wipes before eating a sandwich or a dozen biscuits with your tea.
I had wells disease once and it is easy to catch. Years ago i was stupid enough to clean my plates and cutlery in the lake i once fished. I believe i caught the disease this way and i was bad for a few days and i think if i had not had a upto date tetanus injection then symptoms would of been alot worse. I had severe headaches and severe dizzy spells and terribly sick for days. Believe me this is not nice, also when making cups of tea never leave spoons on the grass and keep all food in your bag of the floor. I keep my cups and spoons and all food in my bag away from the ground and when cleaning my plates and cutlery i always boil the kettle and wash in this. Also i keep baby wipes on me to clean them after. When eating food just quickly wipe your hands with baby wipes before eating a sandwich or a dozen biscuits with your tea.
In reply to Post #1000
With reference to people shooting the furry beggars,its definitely legal to AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE LANDOWNERS PERMISSION TO. It is not legal to discharge a weapon in a public place.
The best thing I found was a big bag of 8-10mm steel ball bearings and a black widow type catapult,the sort with a wrist support! I usually place a tin of corn at the front of the bivvy when it gets dark and sit with the red light on my head torch,then blast them at point blank range,hours of fun and provides a service to both fishery owner and angler!
With reference to people shooting the furry beggars,its definitely legal to AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE LANDOWNERS PERMISSION TO. It is not legal to discharge a weapon in a public place.
The best thing I found was a big bag of 8-10mm steel ball bearings and a black widow type catapult,the sort with a wrist support! I usually place a tin of corn at the front of the bivvy when it gets dark and sit with the red light on my head torch,then blast them at point blank range,hours of fun and provides a service to both fishery owner and angler!
In reply to Post #1000
I heard the advice about tetanus. Is there an antibacterial handwash which is a good health protection against nasty lakeside infections such as Weills?
I heard the advice about tetanus. Is there an antibacterial handwash which is a good health protection against nasty lakeside infections such as Weills?