Go on then enlighten me. I promise I will respond with first hand experience which has helped to form my opinions, plus hold my hand up if proven wrong and split the middle ground if there's a moot point. 👍
By the way this is my least visited section of the forum, not really an ‘activist' of any party, denomination, political viewpoint, but just a bit pissed off with being a pawn in a big ****ed up syatem which makes people like me ignored.
By the way this is my least visited section of the forum, not really an ‘activist' of any party, denomination, political viewpoint, but just a bit pissed off with being a pawn in a big ****ed up syatem which makes people like me ignored.
In reply to Post #31
By the way this is my least visited section of the forum, not really an ‘activist' of any party, denomination, political viewpoint, but just a bit pissed off with being a pawn in a big ****ed up syatem which makes people like me ignored.
OK and you thought the best way of communicating that was by accusing a specific person (who's not even been online here for months) of brainwashing children, did you?
By the way this is my least visited section of the forum, not really an ‘activist' of any party, denomination, political viewpoint, but just a bit pissed off with being a pawn in a big ****ed up syatem which makes people like me ignored.
OK and you thought the best way of communicating that was by accusing a specific person (who's not even been online here for months) of brainwashing children, did you?
In reply to Post #31
And who exactly do you think is going to pay attention to you?
And who exactly do you think is going to pay attention to you?
Oooh I obviously rattled a few cages here.
Are you working in cahoots as a cabal of like minded activists or capable of your own thoughts?
I have posted ONCE on here previously about teachers in a position of authority but who have undue influence but the recipient didn't feel fit to respond with his perspective. ( edit - although he did spend a bit of time checking out my profile 😊
As I said, more than happy to engage with respectful dialogue with opposing viewpoints. However it seems to be the usual rat out of a trap approach to shout down anyone who questions the official ‘ dictat'
Are you working in cahoots as a cabal of like minded activists or capable of your own thoughts?
I have posted ONCE on here previously about teachers in a position of authority but who have undue influence but the recipient didn't feel fit to respond with his perspective. ( edit - although he did spend a bit of time checking out my profile 😊
As I said, more than happy to engage with respectful dialogue with opposing viewpoints. However it seems to be the usual rat out of a trap approach to shout down anyone who questions the official ‘ dictat'
In reply to Post #32
OK and you thought the best way of communicating that was by accusing a specific person (who's not even been online here for months) of brainwashing children, did you?
Your quote above and your reply to a post below (sorry my device won't allow bold or italics for ease)
The funniest bit is berating foreigners whilst utterly incapable of stringing a sentence together in English.
Hmmm. Double standards perhaps, not an unusual hard left wing trait is it? As usual just love the hypocrisy of it all. We know best, do as we say.
OK and you thought the best way of communicating that was by accusing a specific person (who's not even been online here for months) of brainwashing children, did you?
Your quote above and your reply to a post below (sorry my device won't allow bold or italics for ease)
The funniest bit is berating foreigners whilst utterly incapable of stringing a sentence together in English.
Hmmm. Double standards perhaps, not an unusual hard left wing trait is it? As usual just love the hypocrisy of it all. We know best, do as we say.
In reply to Post #35
You sure do love throwing around buzz words don't you
You sure do love throwing around buzz words don't you
In reply to Post #36
Ok then no buzz words - what's your point and what do you think about the thread so far?
For the OP or against?
Go on, commit yourself and let us know what you think and if your viewpoint is defensible. It's not hard, it's actually what democracy ( for all its faults) is based on.
Don't be shy
Ok then no buzz words - what's your point and what do you think about the thread so far?
For the OP or against?
Go on, commit yourself and let us know what you think and if your viewpoint is defensible. It's not hard, it's actually what democracy ( for all its faults) is based on.
Don't be shy
In reply to Post #34
Oooh I obviously rattled a few cages here.
Can appreciate why you'd want to believe that, but what's most telling is that you claim to be
more than happy to engage with respectful dialogue with opposing viewpoints. However it seems to be the usual rat out of a trap approach to shout down anyone who questions the official ‘ dictat'
We can have some respectful dialogue, or you can carry on posting like that, up to you.
Oooh I obviously rattled a few cages here.
Can appreciate why you'd want to believe that, but what's most telling is that you claim to be
more than happy to engage with respectful dialogue with opposing viewpoints. However it seems to be the usual rat out of a trap approach to shout down anyone who questions the official ‘ dictat'
We can have some respectful dialogue, or you can carry on posting like that, up to you.
In reply to Post #38
No problem with a good debate but to be quite honest and frank if you think that my comment about rattling a few ages is out of order, or the potential ganging up on people who disagree with you is disrespectful then maybe you can never discuss your views.
How about stop trying to score points and let us know what your thoughts are. I assure you I'm not on the back foot and as someone who has never discussed politics on here I actually look forward to this discourse, whether with yourself or with the pair of you
👍
No problem with a good debate but to be quite honest and frank if you think that my comment about rattling a few ages is out of order, or the potential ganging up on people who disagree with you is disrespectful then maybe you can never discuss your views.
How about stop trying to score points and let us know what your thoughts are. I assure you I'm not on the back foot and as someone who has never discussed politics on here I actually look forward to this discourse, whether with yourself or with the pair of you
👍
In reply to Post #39
Sure, start a new thread and I'll join in. This one is finished.
Sure, start a new thread and I'll join in. This one is finished.
In reply to Post #40
Why?
I think some valid points have been raised. Is the current Government up to it? Was the last Government up to it? Is Reform up to it?
Are the levels of sleaze of the current Government alarming? Are Raynor and Starmer tainted by taking money and gifts? Is the Corruption minister corrupt? Why won't Jess Phillips ask to hold a public enquiry into Oldham Asian sex abuse on Starmers watch. Why does another man buy clothes forStarmers wife? Why are public sector wages given up to 20% upgrade without any productivity clause. Why are we paying Mauritius hundreds ofmillions of pounds to run an island it doesn't own?
You have openly put skin into an existing thread on the Forum. You obviously have opinions so let us hear them The other bloke who pitched in has contributed nothing other than mumbling about buzzwords and a emoji at me but has now buggered off as it looks like some brains are needed.
Nah, come on, let's have your thoughts, the thread is very much alive. I'm a really nice bloke and I'll keep my naturally dry northern humour at bay and play nice.
Why?
I think some valid points have been raised. Is the current Government up to it? Was the last Government up to it? Is Reform up to it?
Are the levels of sleaze of the current Government alarming? Are Raynor and Starmer tainted by taking money and gifts? Is the Corruption minister corrupt? Why won't Jess Phillips ask to hold a public enquiry into Oldham Asian sex abuse on Starmers watch. Why does another man buy clothes forStarmers wife? Why are public sector wages given up to 20% upgrade without any productivity clause. Why are we paying Mauritius hundreds ofmillions of pounds to run an island it doesn't own?
You have openly put skin into an existing thread on the Forum. You obviously have opinions so let us hear them The other bloke who pitched in has contributed nothing other than mumbling about buzzwords and a
emoji at me but has now buggered off as it looks like some brains are needed.Nah, come on, let's have your thoughts, the thread is very much alive. I'm a really nice bloke and I'll keep my naturally dry northern humour at bay and play nice.
In reply to Post #37
Seeing as you asked so nicely, I'm Apolitical because let's face it, it's the same s**t just a different colour, and anyone who thinks a politician or political party have the publics best interest at heart are delusional IMHO.
What some politicians have done, particularly in recent times is made every effort to divide people for their own gain so we now have a them vs us society which leads people like you to throw artound inflammatory words to get a rise from the opposition.
Oh and before you cry about me saying “people like you” there's plenty of them on both sides of the spectrum.
Seeing as you asked so nicely, I'm Apolitical because let's face it, it's the same s**t just a different colour, and anyone who thinks a politician or political party have the publics best interest at heart are delusional IMHO.
What some politicians have done, particularly in recent times is made every effort to divide people for their own gain so we now have a them vs us society which leads people like you to throw artound inflammatory words to get a rise from the opposition.
Oh and before you cry about me saying “people like you” there's plenty of them on both sides of the spectrum.
In reply to Post #42
Well hello, welcome back.
Actually and surprisingly I agree with you on a lot of your points regarding political parties.
I too do not have any great political alignment to any party, I distrust them all.
However, ( there's alway a however isn't there) you joined a thread with a specific title and your first point was to accuse a forum member of being a Reform supporter without any reasonable cause to say that, so the inference is that you are anti Reform party. After a brief spat with said poster your next post was to say to me that I believed what billionaires said so again implied that I was a Reform voter and in thrall to Elon Musk. Your overall tone was .....shall we say .....somewhat to the left for a non political person🫤
Most of your posts after that decendered into mumbling about buzz words and emojis, but one interesting fact emerged. You said that things like communism and the fact that I /we didn't really understand it, so I think your opportunity to tell us what it really is about is here and waiting. So please do enlighten us.
I noted that your reply below took 17 minutes to compose so it could be a bit of a late night to hear your dissertation on communism and its effects on the world. It will be well worth waiting for though.
The anticipation is exquisite
Well hello, welcome back.
Actually and surprisingly I agree with you on a lot of your points regarding political parties.
I too do not have any great political alignment to any party, I distrust them all.
However, ( there's alway a however isn't there) you joined a thread with a specific title and your first point was to accuse a forum member of being a Reform supporter without any reasonable cause to say that, so the inference is that you are anti Reform party. After a brief spat with said poster your next post was to say to me that I believed what billionaires said so again implied that I was a Reform voter and in thrall to Elon Musk. Your overall tone was .....shall we say .....somewhat to the left for a non political person🫤
Most of your posts after that decendered into mumbling about buzz words and
emojis, but one interesting fact emerged. You said that things like communism and the fact that I /we didn't really understand it, so I think your opportunity to tell us what it really is about is here and waiting. So please do enlighten us.I noted that your reply below took 17 minutes to compose so it could be a bit of a late night to hear your dissertation on communism and its effects on the world. It will be well worth waiting for though.
The anticipation is exquisite
In reply to Post #43
Read the OP's first few posts, complaining about dinghy's, foreigners, the WEF, and using words like “indigenous” are sure fire signs someone is a reform voter, so that's not an accusation but an observation.
And yes I am anti reform, in the same way I'm anti any political party it's just that like conservatives of old, the new reform voters take every opportunity to tell anyone and everyone their political views.
Read the post I made about buzzwords and billionaires again, maybe read it slowly if you need too, that way you might have more of a chance to understand what I said instead of what you think i said.
I also said you throw around words like communism and hard left without any real understanding of what they mean, and you do so in order to get a reaction from
People who challenge your narrative or disagree with you.
I also didn't realise I had to reply in an amount of time you feel is acceptable.
Read the OP's first few posts, complaining about dinghy's, foreigners, the WEF, and using words like “indigenous” are sure fire signs someone is a reform voter, so that's not an accusation but an observation.
And yes I am anti reform, in the same way I'm anti any political party it's just that like conservatives of old, the new reform voters take every opportunity to tell anyone and everyone their political views.
Read the post I made about buzzwords and billionaires again, maybe read it slowly if you need too, that way you might have more of a chance to understand what I said instead of what you think i said.
I also said you throw around words like communism and hard left without any real understanding of what they mean, and you do so in order to get a reaction from
People who challenge your narrative or disagree with you.
I also didn't realise I had to reply in an amount of time you feel is acceptable.
In reply to Post #44
I have read the OP's first comments. It's quite immaterial to what has unfolded since.
Your first comment was to tell a poster that he was in your view a Reform voter.You did this in an unpleasant way, with a condescending attitude as to his right to think for himself, ie outside what you think is acceptable - as a self professed political agnostic this is a bit surprising to say the least.
Your second post was to take him to task over what you had or hadn't said, but again pointed out that in YOUR opinion he was a Reform voter and again as a self professed political agnostic was offensive, condescending and in YOUR view wrong.
Your third post was to accuse me of throwing around words like communist without knowing what it means, parroting buzzwords of a favourite politicians although I had done nothing of the kind.I note that at this time we are still waiting for your description and explanation of communism as you are obviously better versed in the world any other of us mere mortals.
Your next 4 posts were just noise as you attempted to negotiate a way out of your random derogatory comments to total strangers but still wanted to sound relevant.
You aren't relevant, your contributions to this debate a have been shallow and irrelevant, devoid of any depth or accuracy. I merely mentioned the amount of time you took to compose your reply as after taking that amount of time it was maybe hopeful to be more concise, factual, even thought provoking but in the end it was fairly vacuous and given the opportunity to put forward your case you bottled it.
So in essence you have no real input into this debate other than to accuse people of belonging to a political party that you don't like and think most of us can't read. Sorry but 4/10 for effort and 1/10 for factual content.
Goodnight, close the door on the way out.
I have read the OP's first comments. It's quite immaterial to what has unfolded since.
Your first comment was to tell a poster that he was in your view a Reform voter.You did this in an unpleasant way, with a condescending attitude as to his right to think for himself, ie outside what you think is acceptable - as a self professed political agnostic this is a bit surprising to say the least.
Your second post was to take him to task over what you had or hadn't said, but again pointed out that in YOUR opinion he was a Reform voter and again as a self professed political agnostic was offensive, condescending and in YOUR view wrong.
Your third post was to accuse me of throwing around words like communist without knowing what it means, parroting buzzwords of a favourite politicians although I had done nothing of the kind.I note that at this time we are still waiting for your description and explanation of communism as you are obviously better versed in the world any other of us mere mortals.
Your next 4 posts were just noise as you attempted to negotiate a way out of your random derogatory comments to total strangers but still wanted to sound relevant.
You aren't relevant, your contributions to this debate a have been shallow and irrelevant, devoid of any depth or accuracy. I merely mentioned the amount of time you took to compose your reply as after taking that amount of time it was maybe hopeful to be more concise, factual, even thought provoking but in the end it was fairly vacuous and given the opportunity to put forward your case you bottled it.
So in essence you have no real input into this debate other than to accuse people of belonging to a political party that you don't like and think most of us can't read. Sorry but 4/10 for effort and 1/10 for factual content.
Goodnight, close the door on the way out.