In reply to Post #29
I think this post sums it up perfectly. What a sad state of affairs the direction of Carp fishing has gone.
I think this post sums it up perfectly. What a sad state of affairs the direction of Carp fishing has gone.
In reply to Post #28
Not really, shops don't generally just shut up shop they clear stock first?
Not really, shops don't generally just shut up shop they clear stock first?
In reply to Post #15
Perhaps a bit unnecessary. He's a nice guy with a great sense of, admittedly dry, humour.
Perhaps a bit unnecessary. He's a nice guy with a great sense of, admittedly dry, humour.
In reply to Post #27
Just looked at the TA website, first time in years. Had a good look through and I can't see the point of the company, there's nothing there that you can't get from a dozen different companies, absolutely nothing stood out as different, if they disappeared I doubt few would care or notice.
It would be nice to see more companies have a few products in their range that makes them different and stand out, love or hate them OMC tick that box I also think ESP, Drennan do too.
Just looked at the TA website, first time in years. Had a good look through and I can't see the point of the company, there's nothing there that you can't get from a dozen different companies, absolutely nothing stood out as different, if they disappeared I doubt few would care or notice.
It would be nice to see more companies have a few products in their range that makes them different and stand out, love or hate them OMC tick that box I also think ESP, Drennan do too.
I noticed outlaw pro was selling a lot of x display bivvys amongst other stuff on many fb selling pages, I thought they maybe having a new lot of stock coming in.shame if they do close I use the Billericay store quite alot..very helpful lads work in there. Isn't Rob Hughes something to do with them?
In reply to Post #2
It's common knowledge in the trade
It's common knowledge in the trade
Makes for really depressing reading and shows how the trade has eaten itself.
The model of ‘chain' shops was always to drive down cost price and increase margins, so that choice was strangled. Only a few manufacturers wouldn't play ball (freespirit, delkim etc) but all the rest seem to be in a race to the bottom.
I know shops like the Tackle Box look at dismay at some of the on line discounts, and they are lower than they pay. It's disgusting. The box (and others) are thriving shops that pay hundreds of thousands in staff and rent and promote the sport by real investment. Having experts on hand to advise on local waters, getting started out just talking rubbish. It is these type of shops that should get the very best cost prices due to the investment they give back.
I used to have 6 shops within a few mile radius I now have a 20 min drive to the box. If a kid wakes up on Saturday and says dad can we go fishing today, it no longer takes 10 min detour for maggots, that's the real shame, and it will never come back.
If the big supermarkets killed the butchers and bakers then it's AD and Outlaw, that are doing the same to angling. Pushing content rather than real time help. The new generation won't get to look at the array of floats or ask about the local day ticket that's good for a few bites.
The model of ‘chain' shops was always to drive down cost price and increase margins, so that choice was strangled. Only a few manufacturers wouldn't play ball (freespirit, delkim etc) but all the rest seem to be in a race to the bottom.
I know shops like the Tackle Box look at dismay at some of the on line discounts, and they are lower than they pay. It's disgusting. The box (and others) are thriving shops that pay hundreds of thousands in staff and rent and promote the sport by real investment. Having experts on hand to advise on local waters, getting started out just talking rubbish. It is these type of shops that should get the very best cost prices due to the investment they give back.
I used to have 6 shops within a few mile radius I now have a 20 min drive to the box. If a kid wakes up on Saturday and says dad can we go fishing today, it no longer takes 10 min detour for maggots, that's the real shame, and it will never come back.
If the big supermarkets killed the butchers and bakers then it's AD and Outlaw, that are doing the same to angling. Pushing content rather than real time help. The new generation won't get to look at the array of floats or ask about the local day ticket that's good for a few bites.
FCUK em all, AliExpress where I can
In reply to Post #38
I've started making me own hooks 👍
I've started making me own hooks 👍
In reply to Post #39
Safety pins ?
Are they limited edition pre sharpened too?
Safety pins ?
Are they limited edition pre sharpened too?
In reply to Post #1
I use Outlaw shops quite a bit. Shame they're closing.
They also are involved in Elevate Baits aswell.
I use Outlaw shops quite a bit. Shame they're closing.
They also are involved in Elevate Baits aswell.
In reply to Post #14
Exactly what I heard, Esp not backing down to AD's demands.
Exactly what I heard, Esp not backing down to AD's demands.
https://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=433606&ReadAll=1 Looks like the same thing was being talked about AD in 2022
In reply to Post #43
If you have a look on Companies House, there was a notice of compulsory strike off 15th October and then that action was discontinued on the 16th following relevant information from the business, so for now it looks OK.
Their next accounts are due for filling 31st Dec, so that may give an in site to what may or may not be going to happen.
If you have a look on Companies House, there was a notice of compulsory strike off 15th October and then that action was discontinued on the 16th following relevant information from the business, so for now it looks OK.
Their next accounts are due for filling 31st Dec, so that may give an in site to what may or may not be going to happen.
I spoke to someone today who son works for outlaw pro he said they find out on the 19th December whether a new buyer has been found or whether the company will be shutting down the bait side of the business has already shut he said