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Competitions (102 posts / 13,955 views)
Teddybare
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Post #31 2 Jan 2025 21:05
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I love all those things 👍
JamieNow JamieNow
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Post #32 2 Jan 2025 22:56
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In reply to Post #30
what a ridiculous argument.

accepted by the masses because they get addicted to them.

if any of the things you listed aren't that bad then why are they so many rules in place around the promotion/consumption of them? they ban advertising these things to people for no reason at all? the only reason those things are legal are because of the amount of money made from them due to them being..... addictive!

unfortunately not everyone is wired the same & thinking that making choices & decisions is the same for everyone in the world is severely ignorant.

ask any recovering addict if they chose to become addicted & planned to from the beginning. not one will say yes & most will tell you they regret the original decisions they made, no matter how good it made them feel at the time.

it's a choice until it isn't a choice.

(recovering addict)
ip100 ip100
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Post #33 2 Jan 2025 23:09
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It's not a ridiculous arguement at all. If you can't self regulate, that's your issue. Nobody is pushing anything onto anyone. Nobody is instantly addicted. They were just a few examples of things. Everyone has a "vice" of some description. And every one of them makes money for someone somewhere. There is a huge difference between things that are physically addictive and mentally addictive too. I know as I've experienced both.
PaulBishop PaulBishop
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Post #34 3 Jan 2025 09:05
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Whatever happened to self-control and responsibility ?
Choices have consequences, choose wisely.
TCarper TCarper
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Post #35 3 Jan 2025 10:51
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I'm a professional gambler. I'm on holiday, the only reason I'm bothering to write all this out is because I find it quite offensive personally.

As an intelligent human being, you should nothing to do with these comps. For one simple reason. You are being mugged off. Everything in life has a price. Life is a market place. If you choose to buy your bread for £10, instead of £1, you are an idiot. If you chose to play a game, where the odds are so stacked in the favour of the person directing the game, then you are also an idiot. This has gone on since the dawn of time in one form or another. They say prostitution is the oldest profession, bull****, rigged gambling games are just as old.

You lot know me as someone who makes bait. The traders at the single biggest online bookmakers in the UK know me by eleven different female names. I am described by them as their most influential horse race market punter in the UK. If you have a betting account, which you are allowed to bet from.... You should close it and stop gambling. You are a mug, a victim to them. It's the only way they will allow you to continue. You do not even need to win money with them. Simply beating SP on a regular basis would see your account closed or restricted. Successful gambling has nothing to do with information about the horse, or the match. It is about value. Everything has its price In life. If you are betting at a plus EV price, you will succeed at life, no matter what you do. The odds on these competitions are nearly as criminal as the lottery. For those of you who have no clue what I'm referring to I will try to explain simply. If you have a fiver on a horse on a Saturday, the bookmakers will be betting to an over round, that's their percentage of the book. If that is 107%, 7% of the market is in favour of the book makers. This is massive. It ensures, that in the long run the bookies never lose. The odds are in their favour. (Unless you only bet their mistakes). The only reason these people allow me to take large amounts of cash from them is under strict rules which suit them. They let me win an amount that suits me, because the information about their mistakes in their markets makes them millions on a national scale.

Someone mentioned bingo. The poor old ladies get ripped off. The over round will be 200% +. The host will be taking a massive percentage of the market. Ripping off old ladies.

Both of these examples are regulated by the gambling commission. That's the only reason the odds are this favourable. As someone already mentioned these comps are run as raffles to get around this. The over round is so stupidly high. No one regulates it, only the people earning all the money.

I was taught my craft in west end casinos thirty years ago regarding markets and gambling by the very best. Even back then certain analytical mental traits were sort by them when training staff. The FOBT machines that later appeared in bookmakers across the land started life in casinos back then. Super fruit machines. These eventually got banned nationwide. They were the first gambling tools that had mind triggering data written into the actual programming. Designed to prey on weak minds. Specific scenarios to trigger gamblers. You lot should be very careful when playing any online games that involve money. There is a world that you don't understand. Where very clever people have the sole intention of removing the money from your pocket. They don't care if you lose your missus, your entire family and worldly possessions. Whatever they say, if that happens they get rich. That is not happening with these comps, but they are gambling at the most terrible odds.

If you want to have a bit of fun, stick a fiver on a horse on a Saturday, or a tenner on the first goalscorer on your favourite team. If you want a power barrow, save up for one. If you know nothing about odds, steer clear of any form of gambling. These comps are gambling, with the most horrific odds imaginable.
Mattsaunders
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Post #36 3 Jan 2025 11:46
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In reply to Post #35
Any Tips today mate? 😁
PaulBishop PaulBishop
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Post #37 3 Jan 2025 12:25
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In reply to Post #35
Err, lend us a tenner and I'll buy you a drink.
Leeroyjenkins Leeroyjenkins
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Post #38 3 Jan 2025 14:18
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Remember when angling used to be about the love of the sport, untill the likes of Maddocks worked out how to make cash from it, then the likes of Kevin Nash worked out how to squeeze even more cash out of it, untill the next generation, like Mark Pitchers come along to squeeze every last penny penny out he can.

And these people are lorded by anglers everywhere, these people have actively destroyed the hobby we love, for their own personal greed
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #39 3 Jan 2025 15:16
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In reply to Post #38
Nothing to do with competitions but I've never understood when people say that certain celebrity anglers should be commended for promoting carp fishing.
I'd rather fish without the latest gear and without overcrowded lakes with like minded people who haven't been drawn into fishing because of the latest fad, gadgets, blogs, vlogs and egos promoted by those with names or wannabees

As for buying into these competitions I have nothing against them, I don't bother myself as I'm happy with the old gear that I use. Some of it so old that I get compliments from those that are into vintage stuff and disbelief from others who must have the latest
Wayne Wayne
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Post #40 3 Jan 2025 17:11
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Isn't that just taking advantage of a business opportunity? That's what all businesses do to be successful. You see a potential gap in the market and then exploit it.......

One thing I don't get is when people say the sport is ruined and by the likes of these people??? Surely you go to a lake, get ya rods out, put bait on and fish........no need to worry about what others do or are doing?

I have the odd dabble on these comps, 1 or 2 ticket on the car draws........I know the odds are high and am comfortable spending a few quid for a chance of the win.......no different to when I buy a euromillions ticket when it's £150 million jackpot!
Leeroyjenkins Leeroyjenkins
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Post #41 3 Jan 2025 17:36
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In reply to Post #40
Maybe some people have it better, but round my way there is a massive fight to get tickets on waters, and even when you do get a ticket, you're competing with anglers to get a swim. I would love to just go fishing, but I really struggle.
Teddybare
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Post #42 3 Jan 2025 19:39
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In reply to Post #41
Where abouts are you?
Teddybare
Posts: 994
Post #43 3 Jan 2025 21:02
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In reply to Post #35
Using 11 different female names breaks their T&Cs, how are you proving your ID?

I too used to move odds with anti post betting back in the day. Haven't been able to put a bet on online now with any UK bookie for years 👍

You're right, if they let you have an account with no conditions you ain't very good at it.

TCarper TCarper
Posts: 4,650
Post #44 4 Jan 2025 10:14
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In reply to Post #43
Quite simple really, the names on the accounts are all real life people. Three of them are Brazilian. I spend half my life in Brazil now, I have a half Brazilian son. It was easy for them to link these accounts. They would have known for ages. The only reason they contacted me a year ago to let me know, that they know, was to ensure that no more accounts are opened. That's rule number one, two, and three. Or it's game over. I have a limit for win singles on each account.

I had a similar arrangement with Laddies up until September 2023, when they took their ball back.
TCarper TCarper
Posts: 4,650
Post #45 4 Jan 2025 10:22
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Quote... Any Tips today mate?

I am quite certain you are on my Faceache Matthew.

There has been more than enough recently. Val Dancer, Welsh national, 14-1. What did it go off? 6-1? Four out of six over Xmas.

I had a lot of money on a horse at Sandown today, but it all got called off for frost. It must be proper cold. It was 37c here yesterday, schorcio
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