In reply to Post #31
Just sticking a flavour on a pop up mix will catch but I always feel the need to add some food content to the pop up mix or it just feels wrong.
Or I will use half a pop up to balance half a glugged bottom bait so there is some proper food/taste signal.
Even these small pops have a dollop of food stuff in them. This is the aa baits pop mix.
This one is just some crap pop up to balance half a glugged dumbell food bait...
Just sticking a flavour on a pop up mix will catch but I always feel the need to add some food content to the pop up mix or it just feels wrong.
Or I will use half a pop up to balance half a glugged bottom bait so there is some proper food/taste signal.
Even these small pops have a dollop of food stuff in them. This is the aa baits pop mix.
This one is just some crap pop up to balance half a glugged dumbell food bait...
In reply to Post #32
How do you find the AA baits pop up mix? We use their ultra buoyant mix for our wafters and it's spot on, but I also tried using it for our pop ups instead of the BAF and I couldn't get on with it at all. What does their std mix roll like?
How do you find the AA baits pop up mix? We use their ultra buoyant mix for our wafters and it's spot on, but I also tried using it for our pop ups instead of the BAF and I couldn't get on with it at all. What does their std mix roll like?
In reply to Post #33
I haven't used their standard, only the ultra, found it OK.
I added some base mix to add some food content and texture to aid rolling.
Like any pop up mix, they seem soft and don't firm up, but you need to keep adding dry and you will suddenly hit the sweet spot. Don't add more. Test roll a sausage by hand. If it rolls and isn't sticky then it's done. If still sticky then add more dry, but it will come together. Try and keep removing any residue from your hands and work into the paste ball or you won't be able to see if it's the main ball of paste or your hands that are sticky.
Keep stirring while boiling, and don't have the water fiercely boiling.
Add some egg albumen to give a firmer finished bait.
I haven't used their standard, only the ultra, found it OK.
I added some base mix to add some food content and texture to aid rolling.
Like any pop up mix, they seem soft and don't firm up, but you need to keep adding dry and you will suddenly hit the sweet spot. Don't add more. Test roll a sausage by hand. If it rolls and isn't sticky then it's done. If still sticky then add more dry, but it will come together. Try and keep removing any residue from your hands and work into the paste ball or you won't be able to see if it's the main ball of paste or your hands that are sticky.
Keep stirring while boiling, and don't have the water fiercely boiling.
Add some egg albumen to give a firmer finished bait.
In reply to Post #18
Milk e+, intense b sweetner and the pop up mix, I converted to milk e+ after Premier baits stopped selling cream stim which was an excellent product, and price
Milk e+, intense b sweetner and the pop up mix, I converted to milk e+ after Premier baits stopped selling cream stim which was an excellent product, and price
In reply to Post #31
I tried that years ago, it would lift the titanic. I found it impossible to make round baits. I ended up throwing it in the bin
I tried that years ago, it would lift the titanic. I found it impossible to make round baits. I ended up throwing it in the bin
In reply to Post #33
AA is Another I struggle to get round baits with that went in the bin
Best ones I've ever used were richworth and baf by a long way, both made round baits and offered a nice texture to release attractors, some of these pop up mixes are like a snooker ball when boiled.
I would imagine somebody must know the brains of richworth pop up mix? A p.m with a recipe would be much appreciated right now? 😅
AA is Another I struggle to get round baits with that went in the bin
Best ones I've ever used were richworth and baf by a long way, both made round baits and offered a nice texture to release attractors, some of these pop up mixes are like a snooker ball when boiled.
I would imagine somebody must know the brains of richworth pop up mix? A p.m with a recipe would be much appreciated right now? 😅
In reply to Post #37
Your experience mirrors mine exactly. I just couldn't get a decent round bait out of the AA ultra mix unless using it for wafters where it's only in at 20%, and our process is well dialled in. I think I might revisit the CC Moore's offerings.
Or I guess the other option is to develop my own mix completely from scratch but that would be a ball ache.
Your experience mirrors mine exactly. I just couldn't get a decent round bait out of the AA ultra mix unless using it for wafters where it's only in at 20%, and our process is well dialled in. I think I might revisit the CC Moore's offerings.
Or I guess the other option is to develop my own mix completely from scratch but that would be a ball ache.
In reply to Post #38
Jason sticky sharp hooks / baits sells his own pop up mix
So when BAF go trade only what's left out there for home Rollers?
AA baits
Target baits
Are Quality baits still going?
What non angling websites would you recommend for ingredients?
Jason sticky sharp hooks / baits sells his own pop up mix
So when BAF go trade only what's left out there for home Rollers?
AA baits
Target baits
Are Quality baits still going?
What non angling websites would you recommend for ingredients?
In reply to Post #39
I still have my baf trade account even after the changes
I don't fancy mucking about with kilos of various products but if it's pop up and Wafter mix you guys are all wanting drop me a pm 👍
I still have my baf trade account even after the changes
I don't fancy mucking about with kilos of various products but if it's pop up and Wafter mix you guys are all wanting drop me a pm 👍
In reply to Post #39
QB are still as i understand
QB are still as i understand
In reply to Post #38
Just try including cornflour as a binder in the mix.
Just try including cornflour as a binder in the mix.
In reply to Post #42
Thank you. I will have a little play with this. I was thinking of using a mix of milks with soya, semo, maize, egg alb, whey gel, 3M and basemix to try to get a round bait. I hadn't considered cornflour. Thank you
Thank you. I will have a little play with this. I was thinking of using a mix of milks with soya, semo, maize, egg alb, whey gel, 3M and basemix to try to get a round bait. I hadn't considered cornflour. Thank you
In reply to Post #43
I'm waiting for the 'can't use glass in baits it will kill the fish' brigade to jump in here
I'm waiting for the 'can't use glass in baits it will kill the fish' brigade to jump in here
In reply to Post #44
I'd say there's more concern over people using it without taking the necessary safety precautions . Do not use it unless you have the correct face mask. Also you don't want this stuff floating around your kitchen.
I'd say there's more concern over people using it without taking the necessary safety precautions . Do not use it unless you have the correct face mask. Also you don't want this stuff floating around your kitchen.
In reply to Post #44
Yeah, I actually remember that " discussion " that you had ! They just couldn't grasp the details but probably thought nothing of using a piece of plastic corn. I have experimented with buoyant food ingredients such as shrimp shell powder, soya isolates, caseinates etc but so far it's been the 3M microspheres that give more consistent results I'll keep tinkering to see if I can produce an acceptable pop up purely from feed ingredients. It's definitely possible, just haven't had the time recently.
Yeah, I actually remember that " discussion " that you had ! They just couldn't grasp the details but probably thought nothing of using a piece of plastic corn. I have experimented with buoyant food ingredients such as shrimp shell powder, soya isolates, caseinates etc but so far it's been the 3M microspheres that give more consistent results I'll keep tinkering to see if I can produce an acceptable pop up purely from feed ingredients. It's definitely possible, just haven't had the time recently.