In reply to Post #28
Vallorbe file for me too

In reply to Post #30
I find the double sided TA one only good on the softer white side, as the grey side of the stone is far to Coarse for me

In reply to Post #32
Just be gentle and you'll be fine

In reply to Post #33
Can the rough side of the ta stone be used in lieu of a file of its that rough?
Interred to know how the two sides on the ta compare to the red/green point doctors

In reply to Post #34
The ta is more abrasive than the red gardner version,i don't use a file as I end up taking too much off.i suppose you could just use the TA over a file but it would take longer

In reply to Post #35
Ok, thanks.