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new Shimano ultegra 14000 xte or old Ci4+ xtd (35 posts / 16,683 views)
Vanhorne
Posts: 319
Post #31 14 Sep 2022 18:26
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This meaningless fad for quick drag has spoiled,albeit temporarily, many a good reel,just as the meaningless fad for 50mm ringing on the rods.
No true baitrunner model has such limited adjustment
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #32 14 Sep 2022 18:45
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In reply to Post #31
That's what I like about my new Daiwa 45 SD 1 full turn from free spool tension to fighting drag + 1 full turn for completly closed, with the Shimano it was 1 turn from open to fully closed with the washers, you miss so many drag points...
woody71
Posts: 3,098
Post #33 14 Sep 2022 19:40
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In reply to Post #29
Thats because the felt washers are compression washers which is what gives them more adjustment over non compression ptfe, carbon etc.

I still have felt washers in my xt techs still very smooth after all these years
Goose Goose
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Post #34 14 Sep 2022 20:11
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It's not just the washer material that determines the drag, the spool cap itself has a major effect. A lot of the modern caps are solid while in the past many were spring loaded which I believe works well with carbon, ptfe while solid works best with felt.
woody71
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Post #35 14 Sep 2022 20:58
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In reply to Post #34
Yes the cap makes a big difference my techs have a solid bush as standard rather than a spring. I did try some carbon washers in one spool but with the standard cap it was awful the only way to make them feel ok (to me) was to put a spring in the spool cap

I do think a spring can cushion and smooth the drag, but i just went back to felt washers all round with the standard bushed cap which i think works well with my reels.

i have messed with my old daiwa emblem reels and tournies, took the spring out of the cap and fitted non compression washers it make them so fast they are awful, the spring in the daiwa spools is softer than the springs i have found in some ultegra models and this soft spring with daiwas 5 felt washers does make a very slow drag i find it better to either change the washers or replace the spring for a bush.

The only reason i can see a drag this quick is possibly on a marker reel
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