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Decathlon Scopex (136 posts / 28,682 views)
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #31 31 May 2022 14:25
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May be worth testing one out in a glass/bucket of water and see what the breakdown time is. Or not f it starts to rot, not sure many lake owners would appreciate loads of bait rotting in their lakes if it doesnt get eaten
darkoL darkoL
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Post #32 31 May 2022 14:28
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You should try that with lets say top 10 selling baits in uk... you would be very surprised especially with some "frozen" baits... majority of these cheap baits actually fall apart very easily as they save money on binders... it is actually hard to keep them on hair for a long time... gone are the days of hard golf balls... you will get more of those from "good" baits.
carpstar40 carpstar40
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Post #33 31 May 2022 14:31
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Is this the Marco from Boilie design?
lincs-carper
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Post #34 31 May 2022 14:33
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I've done the hnv baits and have now come the conclusion that if the carp like the taste then they will eat it, if it does them good then that's a bonus. They see so much bait it's impossible to know which is better nutritionally. As said, my only major concern is the potential for heavily preserved baits sitting on the lake bed if loads of it goes uneaten
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #35 31 May 2022 14:40
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In reply to Post #32
I am aware, thats why i mentioned it

When i said cheap bait, i meant cheaply made. We all know a lot of expensive bait it cheaply made, profit comes first
frothey frothey
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Post #36 31 May 2022 14:43
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In reply to Post #33
Yes.
RigDemon RigDemon
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Post #37 31 May 2022 14:43
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In reply to Post #31
The 14mm Scopex is really soft to be fair, I'd be surprised if it lasted 24 hours before breaking down.

If the carp don't fancy Sirloin at my venues any more and they are happy with hot dogs then hot dogs it will be
The-Heff The-Heff
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Post #38 31 May 2022 14:48
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This is from the decathlon website. Means not a lot to me but im sure to the bait buffs among us, they may be able to comment.

Product Composition

Composition: Maize, wheat, soya, vegetable protein extract, seeds Additive: Scopex flavouring (0.3%) Raw protein: 8.3% Crude fat: 3.2% Mineral matter: 2.3% Crude fibre: 1.1% Sodium: 0% Moisture content: 30% CERTIFICATION NUMBER: NL207802
RigDemon RigDemon
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Post #39 31 May 2022 14:54
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In reply to Post #38
A lot of that is in every day human grade foods we eat Paul. Scopex excluded of course...
carpstar40 carpstar40
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Post #40 31 May 2022 14:57
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In reply to Post #36
Thought so, great machines but bait Hmmm....
mark1009
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Post #41 31 May 2022 15:59
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In reply to Post #38
I did hear a theory that in summer conditions with low oxygen content in the water carp have trouble processing high levels of protein and carbohydrates are preferred. Maybe why they eat weed and seeds and particles are popular baits in summer maybe a low protein, high carb ,high fibre bait with an attractive flavour label is what is needed in low oxygen conditions.
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #42 31 May 2022 16:30
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In reply to Post #38
Oh my god that reads like a carp bait
frothey frothey
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Post #43 31 May 2022 17:40
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In reply to Post #40
Yeah, I met him via the machines and he has fingers in all sorts of animal feed pies - whatever he does, they seem to eat it. And surely the best bait is the one that catches fish . I know (as in REALLY know) the makeup of a few baits and cant say I'd use any of them as I'm too snobby - yet they do catch, and catch well.

It wouldn't be my 37th bait of choice tho.....
Mr-Thomas Mr-Thomas
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Post #44 31 May 2022 22:05
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In reply to Post #21
Lot of peoples living standards would change if more people realized what a rip off the bait game is.
RigDemon RigDemon
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Post #45 31 May 2022 22:50
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In reply to Post #44
I must say it was a bit of a lightbulb moment for me that was last weekend. Having spent a small fortune on big brand bait this year, I'm going to push the boat out one final time and pick up some of their Monster Crab and that with the Scopex will play off against the branded stuff. If the cheaper performs better then next year its a straightforward decision for me.
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