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Or just use it on the cross braces of the legs, no Strom pole required<<<<
That on its own does not work, all it does is level the bed widthways. Both the head end and foot end could be level widthways, but one of the ends might be higher than the other meaning the bed will be angled up or down. That is why you must level the side of the frame as well.
As for using a mobile phone, I have tried it but it is about as useless as a small spirit level. You can have too much of an error gauging that it is running perfectly square on the frame and not twisted. Sometimes it works but only because you guessed right with the phone that it was perfectly aligned with the frame.
A mobile phone spirit level app also needs to be calibrated and checked to ensure it is working against a known level surface, otherwise, it's pointless to use it.
This is probably why I find the Wilko's level perfect, it has that groove in it for levelling pipes so you get perfect alignment.
Another issue with a phone or small spirit level, the side of the frame may be slightly bowed downwards with sitting on them, and depending where you put the "level" could put it way out. Basically, the bigger the level the better to get a better coverage of the frame.
Or just use it on the cross braces of the legs, no Strom pole required<<<<
That on its own does not work, all it does is level the bed widthways. Both the head end and foot end could be level widthways, but one of the ends might be higher than the other meaning the bed will be angled up or down. That is why you must level the side of the frame as well.
As for using a mobile phone, I have tried it but it is about as useless as a small spirit level. You can have too much of an error gauging that it is running perfectly square on the frame and not twisted. Sometimes it works but only because you guessed right with the phone that it was perfectly aligned with the frame.
A mobile phone spirit level app also needs to be calibrated and checked to ensure it is working against a known level surface, otherwise, it's pointless to use it.
This is probably why I find the Wilko's level perfect, it has that groove in it for levelling pipes so you get perfect alignment.
Another issue with a phone or small spirit level, the side of the frame may be slightly bowed downwards with sitting on them, and depending where you put the "level" could put it way out. Basically, the bigger the level the better to get a better coverage of the frame.
I find it's the middle section that is crucial and needs to be level on both axes, top to bottom, left to right. You don't want your feet higher than your head and a Slightly higher head section and slightly lower foot section is comfortable for me. I think it's a tilt across the bed that causes the problems. It is definitely worth the time and effort to get your bed right for you. The difference is amazing. Once you know what works for you it takes 2/3minutes on the bank. Doesn't matter who makes it, if its properly set up and levelled the way you like it it will be way better.
Let the obsessives obsess, cheap level, 5 minutes work, comfort. KISS
Let the obsessives obsess, cheap level, 5 minutes work, comfort. KISS
In reply to Post #31
I was only talking about leveling side to side Zack, I thought it was rather obvious you'd just use the frame top to level lengthways.
Using a phone app or a small scaff level is completely fine too, no need whatsoever to be lugging round a long level. I use bubbles every day many many times for my job and I can assure you they are perfectly fine. ( And the applications for work are FAR more critical that they are spot on than levelling a bed up)
I was only talking about leveling side to side Zack, I thought it was rather obvious you'd just use the frame top to level lengthways.
Using a phone app or a small scaff level is completely fine too, no need whatsoever to be lugging round a long level. I use bubbles every day many many times for my job and I can assure you they are perfectly fine. ( And the applications for work are FAR more critical that they are spot on than levelling a bed up)
In reply to Post #33
So , SIM it is , but there are a few thicknesses to concider . Obviously a compromise between comfort and practicality of putting one on a bedchair , so any thoughts ?
So , SIM it is , but there are a few thicknesses to concider . Obviously a compromise between comfort and practicality of putting one on a bedchair , so any thoughts ?
The Tackle box,sell a product called a Guesti chair, it allows you to sit on the floor or across your bedchair,it supports your back,it does a good job, it folds up in your bebchair ,is very light,and only costs £20..
I suffered from iliac syndrome,since I started stretching twice a day and Calisthenics once a day ,I have had no problems..I am a side sleeper as well...
I fell off a bank with a fs 150 petrol Strimmer,which I could not discharge,it went into my lower back,...so I know a bit about discomfort and pain .
Try n build up your core...
I suffered from iliac syndrome,since I started stretching twice a day and Calisthenics once a day ,I have had no problems..I am a side sleeper as well...
I fell off a bank with a fs 150 petrol Strimmer,which I could not discharge,it went into my lower back,...so I know a bit about discomfort and pain .
Try n build up your core...
I have a fairly old and well used trakker levelite and thought it may have had its day as there was no support and was giving my back some grief. I bought a small single size memory foam mattress topper aprx 2 inch thickness and cut it to size. It adds some weight but worth it for the comfort.
For me it's simple, if you need a Sim to lie well then you bought a bedchair which is not suitable for your back, after 2 back surgeries my back is a mess, tried 9 stretchers and ended up with the Trakker oval levelite tall, the high-density micro fleece mattress fits me so well that that I don't have back pain after sleeping on it.
In reply to Post #37
Yes , but I tried my mates and it seemed fine , but you can't carry on buying £250+ bedchairs until you find one that suits 😕. So the next question is SIM over memory foam ? .
Yes , but I tried my mates and it seemed fine , but you can't carry on buying £250+ bedchairs until you find one that suits 😕. So the next question is SIM over memory foam ? .
With my bad back I can't lie on a memory foam mattress for 5 minutes (Tried Nash/Avid MF beds), on Trakker's high-density foam mattress I have no problem, but what is good for my back may be unpleasant for someone else it is way too personal, for me a sim is a no go
I bought 9 bedchairs (long live the 30 day money back guarantee)
I bought 9 bedchairs (long live the 30 day money back guarantee)
In reply to Post #1
I've had 3 lots of spinal surgery resulting in a fusion and have been a bad back sufferer for years, the best combination I have found is a Wychwood tactical x bed which is light and firm, with an Exped Megamat 10cm sim on top which is inflated to suit, and I always use a small spirit level to level the bed, makes a massive difference.
I've had 3 lots of spinal surgery resulting in a fusion and have been a bad back sufferer for years, the best combination I have found is a Wychwood tactical x bed which is light and firm, with an Exped Megamat 10cm sim on top which is inflated to suit, and I always use a small spirit level to level the bed, makes a massive difference.
In reply to Post #38
I would go with a sim, I have the helium one and it has completely transformed my bedchair, I found not adding to much extra air is the key, I usually leave mine for around 45 mins to self inflate and its perfect
The thing with memory foam is when it gets cold it starts to harden and then becomes uncomfortable, also its more likely to sweat in the summer
I would go with a sim, I have the helium one and it has completely transformed my bedchair, I found not adding to much extra air is the key, I usually leave mine for around 45 mins to self inflate and its perfect
The thing with memory foam is when it gets cold it starts to harden and then becomes uncomfortable, also its more likely to sweat in the summer