In reply to Post #28
Well said braders nice to have a none aggressive response

In reply to Post #30
I do a bit of poaching, so I would actually like it to be at least bulletproof.

There hasn't been one tackle manufacturer that has ever made a decent rucksack to date. There's no doubt that companies have made some trick looking attempts with all the bells and whistles, yet they always fail on two very important aspects: comfort and longevity/ durability.

The big difference between military rucksacks/ bergans and consumer grade tackle companies rucksacks is that the former of recent times are tested over thousands and thousands of hours on state of the art machines in places like Porton Down which are designed and developed to be comfortable to the degree of being useful and will last the rigours of being thrown around, ripped through hedges, generally abused without falling apart in various different environments and scenario's. Tackle companies on the other hand don't have such things as Porton Down at their disposal, instead, the design teams at 'X Tackle HQ' come up with the best that they can, ticking certain boxes and wants along the way hoping something will eventually stick, their design fails and then the MKII super duper wicked is out in a years or so's time, and blokes just lap it up, rinse and repeat.

Crack on chaps, they'll surely make a good one one day won't they? Kek.

In reply to Post #33
Do Viper make a good military rucksack as they are sold on military 1st

In reply to Post #34
Anyone know anything about Brandit us Cooper back pack

In reply to Post #33
That's right when I go fishing I often include a trek across the beacons, chucking my gear in the back of a 110 defender and, doing some FIBUA training.

Military rucksacks work fine but they aren't designed for fishing. Generally they are too narrow and are a pain in the rear to get stuff out of, on top of this they won't stand up on their own, this is again a pain in the rear. The problem is everyone wants something slightly different from a rucksack. If I went and designed my perfect one, it would undoubtedly be very different to yours.

In reply to Post #36
Either went over your head the point I was making or you're being purposley argumentative and ignored my points I've made just for the sakes of argument, but again I'll make the point that military gear of recent times is rigourously tested and punished to find it's weak points which are then in most cases fixed in testing, fishing rucksacks obviously aren't tested to the same degree as the military gear which is why clips blow up, shoulder straps rip off and zips fail for example.

Obviously when we're fishing we're not coming under enemy sniper fire after being dropped off from a Puma and have to tab 20km over mountain regions fully loaded with mortar rounds, bands of 7.62 for the GPMG and spare 5.56 for yourself and others to end up fighting at close quarters at the end of the tab just to do an afternoons mixer fishing...but what we should expect is the rucksack we do buy from 'X' brand isn't torture having it on our backs mooching around a pool or gravel pit and halfway round the shoulder strap tears off because the stitching is sub standard or that your buzzers are somewhere around the lake as they've fallen off coz the fake Molle system is a load of old w..k.

Granted, the military [British Army for instance] stuff doesn't stand up on its own, neither does it have natty internals where 'X' brands specifically designed luggage fits neatly inside - there are compromises - but the trick that recent military gear does have up its sleeve is it's not far short of being bomb proof, it won't fall to pieces or let you down when fully loaded and will last for years and years into the future. As for being too narrow, maybe undo the compression straps? I don't know what ones you've used before, the ones I've used are anything but narrow; cavernous would be a very apt description.

Anyways, I've got others to save >>click<<

I dont know what fishing rucksacks you have used but I havent had a shoulder strap tear off, stitching come away or a clip blow up in 25 years of carp fishing. I agree with the other comments of hiking rucksacks being to long and deep so your rummaging around in the bottom looking for things and as mentioned its a pain in the arse that they wont stand up properly inside a bivvy.

In reply to Post #37
Try these, they are a compromise between the army and fishing ones in my opinion

https://wyliesoutdoorworld.com/products/kombat-uk-ltd-viking-patrol-pack-60-litre

I have the old (~12 months old) TA camo sack, it can be uncomfortable when you first sling it on, my issue was the chest strap around my throat. If you tighten the shoulder straps it pulls the sack up into position, I then find it perfectably comfortable. I find it ideal for fishing due to the bankstick pockets, easy access to main compartment and pouches.
I have a few 'high end' rucksacks (if there is such a thing) that I use for skiing - whilst they are comfier they would be a pain to use for fishing as lack the purpose designed feature above. I'd end up with everything stuffed in one compartment and have to empty them to get anything.

Ultimately the majority of military gear is made to suit a budget - if you wanted a really high quality product I'd bet that a good mountaineering rucksack would be superior.

In reply to Post #39
Yeah mate, I'm aware of those types of packs. They're probably better than what the tackle companies put out there and tick the boxes for most anglers.

I've already mentioned the one I've got, it's the Lowe Alpine Sting --> >>click<<

In reply to Post #38
We are ok with our Speero gear as its got military grade zips and clips plus reinforced strapping like they do on the Viper gear the company make

In reply to Post #42
Speero top quality gear I remember some time ago an x soldier on here said that he had the ta one and said it was the nearest you will get to army one he thought it was great I don't agree as I already said but he was saying how comfortable it was I can't see it but that was his opinion and he had used both so we have to respect other people's opinion as all they are doing is telling as they found it being rude to people is very childish over a rucksack

In reply to Post #43
All depends on your type of fishing too, if you park near the lake and walk a couple of hundred years to a swim and use a barrow your requirements are very different to someone walking along miles of river or to remote lakes where you can't use a barrow.

Had a speero bag and the quality was amazing just didn't sit as well as some of the military style bags

In reply to Post #43
Oh stop lying by accusing posters of being aggressive, that is so utterly preposterous and totally disingenuous to put it mildly.