In reply to Post #29
I too have had Tempests since they first came out and had to replace the front poles on a Tempest V2 3 times. I have seen others have exactly the same multiple problems and other people not have any, all these people putting them up correctly. The Tempest was a brilliant design from the beginning just let down by lack of attention to detail and terrible quality control. Personally now I think the Nash and Fox options are better😎
I too have had Tempests since they first came out and had to replace the front poles on a Tempest V2 3 times. I have seen others have exactly the same multiple problems and other people not have any, all these people putting them up correctly. The Tempest was a brilliant design from the beginning just let down by lack of attention to detail and terrible quality control. Personally now I think the Nash and Fox options are better😎
I've read so many posts about all these bivvies. The conclusion I've come to is that quality control in China is like British Leyland in the 70's after a boozy lunch on a Friday afternoon. You're lucky to get one that isn't a lemon . it's a lottery.
In reply to Post #31
Opening the tempest with the front in . I would imagine was the reason for a lot of bent poles 🤷♂️
Opening the tempest with the front in . I would imagine was the reason for a lot of bent poles 🤷♂️
In reply to Post #33
Nope, no front in or tension strap attached. Just weak poles.
Nope, no front in or tension strap attached. Just weak poles.
In reply to Post #34
I must say I see a lot of second hand Tempests with bend poles indeed.
I must say I see a lot of second hand Tempests with bend poles indeed.
In reply to Post #34
Dp
Dp
I've had my current tempest for just over 2 years fish every other week end and it is still like new. I also had a v2 beforehand and not once have I ever had a bent pole so god knows what others are doing with them because I'm not exactly gentle with it.
Like I've said below I wouldn't touch the Nash options if you paid me I've had to many bad experiences with them and the build quality is shocking not to mention the customer service!
I can't comment on the frontier I haven't had one but I will say it is growing on me, maybe my next purchase at some point in the future
Like I've said below I wouldn't touch the Nash options if you paid me I've had to many bad experiences with them and the build quality is shocking not to mention the customer service!
I can't comment on the frontier I haven't had one but I will say it is growing on me, maybe my next purchase at some point in the future
In reply to Post #37
People are not doing anything, some of the poles are just *****
People are not doing anything, some of the poles are just *****
In reply to Post #38
No they aren't
No they aren't
In reply to Post #38
Who are all these people you speak of? And how do you know them all ? And how is it some of the poles are just **** and not all of them. Surely they are all made to the same spec and the material . There were some issues when the tempest was being put up with them front panel in . Trakker sorted that out within the instruction paperwork. I've put my tempest up before now with the fabric twisted around the bottom of the pole and it's still gone up without bending anything.
Who are all these people you speak of? And how do you know them all ? And how is it some of the poles are just **** and not all of them. Surely they are all made to the same spec and the material . There were some issues when the tempest was being put up with them front panel in . Trakker sorted that out within the instruction paperwork. I've put my tempest up before now with the fabric twisted around the bottom of the pole and it's still gone up without bending anything.
In reply to Post #39
Yes they are, stop being a fanboy. I'm old enough and ugly enough to know when something has issues. As stated I have owned Tempests since the very beginning and never had an issue with the V1 poles so i do know how to put them up. The V2 poles are a completely different kettle of fish. As for another question how am I seeing all these damaged ones well quite a few are in military events so I do get to see quite a few different anglers and it is always one of the front poles that goes.
I'm not in the habit of slagging things off for no reason and certainly won't do it unless I have first hand experience of it.
Yes they are, stop being a fanboy. I'm old enough and ugly enough to know when something has issues. As stated I have owned Tempests since the very beginning and never had an issue with the V1 poles so i do know how to put them up. The V2 poles are a completely different kettle of fish. As for another question how am I seeing all these damaged ones well quite a few are in military events so I do get to see quite a few different anglers and it is always one of the front poles that goes.
I'm not in the habit of slagging things off for no reason and certainly won't do it unless I have first hand experience of it.
In reply to Post #41
Stop being a fanboy 😂😂😂 bit rich coming from someone who never stopped banging the fox drum 😂😂. Let's get a couple of things straight my opinions and views are no less valid than yours are . Just because we disagree doesn't make your opinion more valid than mine . So give yer head a bit of a wobble and get over yourself
Stop being a fanboy 😂😂😂 bit rich coming from someone who never stopped banging the fox drum 😂😂. Let's get a couple of things straight my opinions and views are no less valid than yours are . Just because we disagree doesn't make your opinion more valid than mine . So give yer head a bit of a wobble and get over yourself
In reply to Post #42
Its a good drum to bang
One thing I've always done is try to be objective and as said I've never commented on anything unless i have first hand experience. I always loved the Tempest design and it was my go to until this year. The only issue I had was with those poles, i just wish they were of better quality
And I wasn't calling you a Fanboy
Its a good drum to bang
One thing I've always done is try to be objective and as said I've never commented on anything unless i have first hand experience. I always loved the Tempest design and it was my go to until this year. The only issue I had was with those poles, i just wish they were of better quality
And I wasn't calling you a Fanboy
In reply to Post #41
I'm not a fanboy (very rich comment that from captain fox himself ), but a long term tempest user. The poles are not weak, and don't just break or bend unless you are a hamfisted oaf. You only need to see the sheer number of tempests on the bank to know just how good they are.
I'm not a fanboy (very rich comment that from captain fox himself ), but a long term tempest user. The poles are not weak, and don't just break or bend unless you are a hamfisted oaf. You only need to see the sheer number of tempests on the bank to know just how good they are.
In reply to Post #44
You are right, I am a ham fisted oaf but I too am a long term Tempest user, going all the way back from getting 1 of the first that came into Leslies of Luton. I also agree that there are lots on the bank and as already said I've always loved the design, Captain Fox not changing until the Frontier itself came out
My only issue has been with the poles. I was able to source them generally through Johnson Ross, however others have not been so lucky, some even sourcing from the continent because they could not get in the UK. If a spare part is continually going out of stock due to sales then straightaway that says to me that maybe there may be an issue.
You are right, I am a ham fisted oaf but I too am a long term Tempest user, going all the way back from getting 1 of the first that came into Leslies of Luton. I also agree that there are lots on the bank and as already said I've always loved the design, Captain Fox not changing until the Frontier itself came out
My only issue has been with the poles. I was able to source them generally through Johnson Ross, however others have not been so lucky, some even sourcing from the continent because they could not get in the UK. If a spare part is continually going out of stock due to sales then straightaway that says to me that maybe there may be an issue.