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Line twist (56 posts / 8,948 views)
BillsBankLife BillsBankLife
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Post #32 13 Aug 2020 08:57
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i have used the spin doctor and to be honest although it worked i still don't think you can beat going to a large field /park and stretching out the line. i normally go to a local park wrap it round the goalpost and stretch it out a couple of times then run a warm cloth up and down the line a few times.

amount of comments you get from passers by saying no fish in here mate , used to it now lol

another trick i do is the night before a fishing trip i soak wrist sweatbands in very hot water and place them over my spool, when it comes to fishing the line is perfect and limp and so much better to work with.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #33 13 Aug 2020 09:23
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In reply to Post #32
After many years of using Daiwa Sensor and after reading how good Shimano Technium was I put some on my Infinity BR reels. When putting the new line on I used the method whereby you have the label facing you so in theory the coils come off and onto the reel in the same direction. I suffered line twist almost immediately, I tried the going to a field and reeling in method quite a few times and that only made a slight improvement so I binned it and put on more new Technium but this time used a method that was a bit like this
LINK
All ok now
yonny yonny
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Post #34 13 Aug 2020 09:33
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It is dead easy to determine if your line is twisting during loading. Put on a say 30 yards, open the bail arm, and pull off a yard or 2. You'll see it coiling/twisting straight away if you're using the wrong method (and there certainly are right/wrong methods for lines from different manufacturers). If it coils/twists, turn the spool of line over and repeat the process.
As long as you're careful and check the line during loading there is no reason that line should ever be twisted after loading.
rodrest rodrest
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Post #35 13 Aug 2020 09:46
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In reply to Post #33
When your putting on new line the line goes on to the reel spool clockwise so has to come off the manufacturers spool anti clockwise if your laying it flat on the floor. Its got nothing to do with labels, probably why you got twist straight away. Been spooling up like this for years and never had a problem.
yonny yonny
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Post #36 13 Aug 2020 09:54
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In reply to Post #35
Some lines are oscillated during loading of the spool so you have to use a different method entirely to load them (spool on the side vs. spool flat). You really need to check during loading to make sure you're using the suitable method.
ip100 ip100
Posts: 12,494
Post #37 13 Aug 2020 09:57
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In reply to Post #33
I've never understood why people say that, line doesn't go onto the spool from the side, so why take it off that way? It's wound around the central spindle of the spool, therefore it shouldn't come off either label side or the other side, but from straight between the 2 sides, The same way that an extension lead comes out and retracts for example. The spooling tool you can buy on ebay for a few quid is the way to do it properly, or get someone with a pencil through the spool
Chuffy Chuffy
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Post #38 13 Aug 2020 10:37
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In reply to Post #37
Or wing it like this

Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #39 13 Aug 2020 10:38
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In reply to Post #35
its got nothing to do with labels
Mentioning labels was an easy way to describe the orientation of the spool, unless you've got an old Mitchell reel the label facing you is in most cases the accepted way if you have faith in this method.
Maybe my post didn't make it clear but your post doesn't make it clear to me, do you use a method similar to that in my link and chuffy's pic or do you do the other method. If it was the later then according to you I shouldn't of got the problem but I did..

If this post confuses then maybe leave it there as I'm with IP100 and Chuffy on this as it works for me and whatever you do works for you
ip100 ip100
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Post #40 13 Aug 2020 10:38
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In reply to Post #38
Looks just the job that does👍
phil090781
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Post #41 13 Aug 2020 11:58
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In reply to Post #37
You're putting twist in the line by spooling it horizontally on your reel (via the line roller) Label up vs label down is effectively unwinding the line off the bulk spook clockwise or counter clockwise. Having the bulk spool one way will counteract the twist you're adding at the reel end, and the other way will exacerbate it.
ip100 ip100
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Post #42 13 Aug 2020 13:35
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In reply to Post #41
No it isnt, its taking it off in the reverse of how it went on. The link tin head put up shows the correct method
phil090781
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Post #43 13 Aug 2020 13:52
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In reply to Post #42
I don't think you read my post properly.
ip100 ip100
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Post #44 13 Aug 2020 13:54
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In reply to Post #43
You are saying line should be taken off the bulk spool by laying it on its side, no?
phil090781
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Post #45 13 Aug 2020 14:44
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In reply to Post #44
correct, to counteract the twist your reel is adding by turning the line 90 degrees.

You're right, mono is manufactured in a linear process and is would on to the bulk spool 'straight on' but you have to factor in the twist added by the reel, and loading off the side of the spool helps counteracts this (as long as you do it the right side)
ip100 ip100
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Post #46 13 Aug 2020 15:04
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In reply to Post #45
The reel only adds twist if your bail arm roller isn't working properly, so the correct way is as stated in tin heads clip
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