In reply to Post #30
If your budget stretches to it and you want to burn petrol and not sure about using gas, get a multifuel burner like a Primus omnifuel. Then you can burn anything and if you carry a bottle of petrol or other liquid fuel and gas you can switch to either. Usually I use liquid fuel out of the bivvy and gas inside if the weather turns bad or use my Trangia burning meths.
Primus stoves can be bought cheap second hand on EBay. Over the years I have bought both a multifuel and an omnifuel for far less than just one of them full price.
Another consideration though with using petrol, the jets clog up occasionally so your having to clean them and you could end up with your hands smelling of petrol unless you use a more cleaner fuel like Aspen 4T or Naptha which does not clog the jets
If your budget stretches to it and you want to burn petrol and not sure about using gas, get a multifuel burner like a Primus omnifuel. Then you can burn anything and if you carry a bottle of petrol or other liquid fuel and gas you can switch to either. Usually I use liquid fuel out of the bivvy and gas inside if the weather turns bad or use my Trangia burning meths.
Primus stoves can be bought cheap second hand on EBay. Over the years I have bought both a multifuel and an omnifuel for far less than just one of them full price.
Another consideration though with using petrol, the jets clog up occasionally so your having to clean them and you could end up with your hands smelling of petrol unless you use a more cleaner fuel like Aspen 4T or Naptha which does not clog the jets
In reply to Post #31
With the Coleman's you can use petrol, Coleman fuel or Aspen 4T as well which is cleaner than petrol.
With the Coleman's you can use petrol, Coleman fuel or Aspen 4T as well which is cleaner than petrol.
In reply to Post #32
The Aspen 4 is great, cheaper than the Coleman Fuel and wont clog up your stove like petrol. One of the many helpful tips I learned from this fourm.
The Aspen 4 is great, cheaper than the Coleman Fuel and wont clog up your stove like petrol. One of the many helpful tips I learned from this fourm.
In reply to Post #23
Thats crazy, I see you said you used to have a mate, hope he is still alive after it. I used to boil some water and put the canister in it, helped a bit but froze again soon after. Bought a Coleman Stove and its never let me down.
Thats crazy, I see you said you used to have a mate, hope he is still alive after it. I used to boil some water and put the canister in it, helped a bit but froze again soon after. Bought a Coleman Stove and its never let me down.
In reply to Post #19
Ridge Monkey stove - last year sent it back, because it stopped working in the cold..... they did replace it for me eventually.... ( under duress I may add )
Blow me down..... Thursday morning im on the bank,,,,, 1st frost of the year and the stove stopped working again....
Now Ive fished through the winter over the past 25 years and never had a gas stove do this to me, let alone twice....
What a waste of £39....... Never buying their stuff again.
Ridge Monkey stove - last year sent it back, because it stopped working in the cold..... they did replace it for me eventually.... ( under duress I may add )
Blow me down..... Thursday morning im on the bank,,,,, 1st frost of the year and the stove stopped working again....
Now Ive fished through the winter over the past 25 years and never had a gas stove do this to me, let alone twice....
What a waste of £39....... Never buying their stuff again.
In reply to Post #35
Ridgemonkey have had no end of problems with their stoves, the rest of their gear is good stuff though.
Ridgemonkey have had no end of problems with their stoves, the rest of their gear is good stuff though.
In reply to Post #36
I like a lot of the monkey gear, but I've got to agreethe stove isn't their finest hour. I do use one as my main cooker now, but I keep a t4 in the van as a back up.
I think they really need to bring out a mk2, with a preheater. The concept of a square stove for their pans and the ability to add a second head off of one has bottle is excellent, The levelling feet work well, but the final product is far from perfect.
Someone mentioned them flaring up if the canister gets knocked over. I tried mine at the time and it didn't do it, I realise now that's because the can was nearly empty. I tried it with a full canister and it flared up like a oil rig. I now know why they provide clip on legs for the gas canister with the stove. I guess they discovered this issue too far down the line to change the design, so a cheaper fix was to provide plastic gas can feet instead. Which I've now lost anyway.
I like a lot of the monkey gear, but I've got to agreethe stove isn't their finest hour. I do use one as my main cooker now, but I keep a t4 in the van as a back up.
I think they really need to bring out a mk2, with a preheater. The concept of a square stove for their pans and the ability to add a second head off of one has bottle is excellent, The levelling feet work well, but the final product is far from perfect.
Someone mentioned them flaring up if the canister gets knocked over. I tried mine at the time and it didn't do it, I realise now that's because the can was nearly empty. I tried it with a full canister and it flared up like a oil rig. I now know why they provide clip on legs for the gas canister with the stove. I guess they discovered this issue too far down the line to change the design, so a cheaper fix was to provide plastic gas can feet instead. Which I've now lost anyway.
In reply to Post #35
Blow me down..... Thursday morning im on the bank,,,,, 1st frost of the year and the stove stopped working again....
Were you using butane or a (primarily) butane mix? In which case once the temperature gets down to 4 degs C it will struggle. You need either a propane heavy mix, just propane or a liquid fuel stove that runs on petrol(or the better derivatives like Aspen or Coleman fuel) or paraffin. I ran an Optimus Nova on paraffin for years - bullet proof and very cheap to run. This all over the Lakes and Scotland in all weathers at all times of the year. I'm a propane running softee now mind.
Blow me down..... Thursday morning im on the bank,,,,, 1st frost of the year and the stove stopped working again....
Were you using butane or a (primarily) butane mix? In which case once the temperature gets down to 4 degs C it will struggle. You need either a propane heavy mix, just propane or a liquid fuel stove that runs on petrol(or the better derivatives like Aspen or Coleman fuel) or paraffin. I ran an Optimus Nova on paraffin for years - bullet proof and very cheap to run. This all over the Lakes and Scotland in all weathers at all times of the year. I'm a propane running softee now mind.
In reply to Post #38
I use the Coleman butane / propane mix which is good. Definitely worth getting a stove with a preheater as well . As already mention the bulin T4 is excellent, so much so I have recently bought a spare for when mine eventually packs up 👍
I use the Coleman butane / propane mix which is good. Definitely worth getting a stove with a preheater as well . As already mention the bulin T4 is excellent, so much so I have recently bought a spare for when mine eventually packs up 👍
In reply to Post #11
Great idea thanks for the link
Great idea thanks for the link
Anyone who fishes in the depths of winter should make sure the gas stove they use has a pre heater pipe
then SIMPLY ! light the stove wait a min then turn the gas bottle upside down it will then run on the liquid gas
remembering when you turn off it will run on for a few moments longer due to running on the liquid gas no need to ponce about with anything else ?
then SIMPLY ! light the stove wait a min then turn the gas bottle upside down it will then run on the liquid gas
remembering when you turn off it will run on for a few moments longer due to running on the liquid gas no need to ponce about with anything else ?
In reply to Post #14
Thank goodness for this thread, i used a primus paraffin stove for years during the colder months, however its packed up and i really rather use gas...
@Panander - your post piqued my interest in regards to 'refilling the Coleman canisters with propane'
a couple of Q's if i may:
is "refilling gas" safe?
AND is there a YT video or a link you can provide on how to do this/where to buy the adapter etc?
MANY thanks in advance for ya help!
Thank goodness for this thread, i used a primus paraffin stove for years during the colder months, however its packed up and i really rather use gas...
@Panander - your post piqued my interest in regards to 'refilling the Coleman canisters with propane'
a couple of Q's if i may:
is "refilling gas" safe?
AND is there a YT video or a link you can provide on how to do this/where to buy the adapter etc?
MANY thanks in advance for ya help!
In reply to Post #42
There have been several threads on here that mention refilling, with links to the parts needed.
Also several YouTube videos with details of parts and methods.
There have been several threads on here that mention refilling, with links to the parts needed.
Also several YouTube videos with details of parts and methods.
In reply to Post #42
a couple of Q's if i may:
is "refilling gas" safe?
AND is there a YT video or a link you can provide on how to do this/where to buy the adapter etc?
Is it safe?
Well I am still here and have never had any issues. I feel fairly confident that experts in the field will tell you its not a good thing to do though. The actual refilling I always do outside for obvious reasons. I weigh the bottles as they are filling - I go to 570gms max. That is tin plus gas.
As for Youtube videos. I have never seen one personally.
The adaptors can be bought from Ebay. They come from the Far East of course and they do need a bit of help to screw home but once there, not an issue. I have used two types - the first had a plastic hand wheel which soon broke so I had to use some grips after that. The latest one has a brass handwheel but still needs persuasion to tighten up. Once there though its good to go.
Cool the tins in the freezer first (you may have to do it a few times to get the required amount of fuel in especially when its warm).
Not everybody's cup of tea but it works for me. I was in AD a little while ago and I'm sure I saw some 600 size propane gas tins. Pretty sure it said about £7 a pop. Did I dream that? Not sure.
The beauty of propane is it is not weather affected. It always works. Also you will empty the tins. They work till they are empty and don't really drop off until they are virtually out.
a couple of Q's if i may:
is "refilling gas" safe?
AND is there a YT video or a link you can provide on how to do this/where to buy the adapter etc?
Is it safe?
Well I am still here and have never had any issues. I feel fairly confident that experts in the field will tell you its not a good thing to do though. The actual refilling I always do outside for obvious reasons. I weigh the bottles as they are filling - I go to 570gms max. That is tin plus gas.
As for Youtube videos. I have never seen one personally.
The adaptors can be bought from Ebay. They come from the Far East of course and they do need a bit of help to screw home but once there, not an issue. I have used two types - the first had a plastic hand wheel which soon broke so I had to use some grips after that. The latest one has a brass handwheel but still needs persuasion to tighten up. Once there though its good to go.
Cool the tins in the freezer first (you may have to do it a few times to get the required amount of fuel in especially when its warm).
Not everybody's cup of tea but it works for me. I was in AD a little while ago and I'm sure I saw some 600 size propane gas tins. Pretty sure it said about £7 a pop. Did I dream that? Not sure.
The beauty of propane is it is not weather affected. It always works. Also you will empty the tins. They work till they are empty and don't really drop off until they are virtually out.
In reply to Post #44
If they are charging £7 for a gas can they must be taking the piss. You can buy box of six for less than twenty quid.
If they are charging £7 for a gas can they must be taking the piss. You can buy box of six for less than twenty quid.