In reply to Post #13
I don't think it's fair to compare a boat, crew, fuel, maintenance, harbour fees etc. Some of those prices are justified but it's not the same as plonking yourself in a swim and casting out.
Yes high price fisheries have their own expenses, I accept that but I reckon they are making more than small boat businesses
Having said that if I owned a fisheries then perhaps I'd have a different attitude
I don't think it's fair to compare a boat, crew, fuel, maintenance, harbour fees etc. Some of those prices are justified but it's not the same as plonking yourself in a swim and casting out.
Yes high price fisheries have their own expenses, I accept that but I reckon they are making more than small boat businesses
Having said that if I owned a fisheries then perhaps I'd have a different attitude
In reply to Post #13
Spot on... It's a hard way to earn a living but many enjoy the lifestyle... Regards the crew, a decent tip at the end is good etiquette and not doing so is really poor form... That's just the way it is and it helps to top up wages...
Spot on... It's a hard way to earn a living but many enjoy the lifestyle... Regards the crew, a decent tip at the end is good etiquette and not doing so is really poor form... That's just the way it is and it helps to top up wages...
In reply to Post #16
I agree, it's not a fair comparison given what's involved but it does put into perspective £80 a day or whatever...
My view is that fishing should be fully inclusive, which is where the local club venues come in - the grass roots and lifeblood of the passtime.
I agree, it's not a fair comparison given what's involved but it does put into perspective £80 a day or whatever...
My view is that fishing should be fully inclusive, which is where the local club venues come in - the grass roots and lifeblood of the passtime.
In reply to Post #16
Fair enough but you said it's market forces and I have to totally disagree regards RH fisheries.
Have a look at the work they're putting into Patshull Park, it's on youtube, the initial outlay must be massive. Drain down, net, re sculpt (plant machinery) new pegs, land scaping (plant hire) re stocking, new clubhouse and everything that goes along with that, showers, kitchens, bait storage, new paths around the lake etc etc.
All the labour in doing that, paying rent and that's before even starting to take a penny.
Even when ready to open there will be a bailiffs wage, electricity, replacing stock, machinery expenses, aeration maybe and on and on it goes (bit like me...lol)
I've no idea how much they're putting into that, but even at £50 a day ticket and 100 pegs, that's 5k a day, 35k a week, 140k/month. Going to take them a long time to recoup.
Don't get me wrong, they'll make a tidy profit once past start up costs...and...should that be begrudged?
Fair enough but you said it's market forces and I have to totally disagree regards RH fisheries.
Have a look at the work they're putting into Patshull Park, it's on youtube, the initial outlay must be massive. Drain down, net, re sculpt (plant machinery) new pegs, land scaping (plant hire) re stocking, new clubhouse and everything that goes along with that, showers, kitchens, bait storage, new paths around the lake etc etc.
All the labour in doing that, paying rent and that's before even starting to take a penny.
Even when ready to open there will be a bailiffs wage, electricity, replacing stock, machinery expenses, aeration maybe and on and on it goes (bit like me...lol)
I've no idea how much they're putting into that, but even at £50 a day ticket and 100 pegs, that's 5k a day, 35k a week, 140k/month. Going to take them a long time to recoup.
Don't get me wrong, they'll make a tidy profit once past start up costs...and...should that be begrudged?
In reply to Post #20
You're not wrong mate, but isn't that just the way it is now, across the board , with everything.....just waiting for shrinkflation in fisheries
Like you, that would be a treat for me, not a norm, and I'd expect the best for that money.
I don't even baulk at 2k for a exclusive with chalet in France nowadays, £300 a day, nuts, but to be fair when I 1st started going in the early 0's we were paying £1600 drive and survive...if that was extrapolated to todays costs
Maybe that's the point with regards the likes of RH..hmm
You're not wrong mate, but isn't that just the way it is now, across the board , with everything.....just waiting for shrinkflation in fisheries
Like you, that would be a treat for me, not a norm, and I'd expect the best for that money.
I don't even baulk at 2k for a exclusive with chalet in France nowadays, £300 a day, nuts, but to be fair when I 1st started going in the early 0's we were paying £1600 drive and survive...if that was extrapolated to todays costs
Maybe that's the point with regards the likes of RH..hmm